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PostSubject: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 4:29 am

I played for 8 hours in the Frontier, and i coudln't continue at all. Not because of weird bugs, no. But for the cringie storyline, and worse dialogues.

I mean. The hell?
Underground Drugged Lizard-fetish people, with human breeders. The fuck?
If you insult the Dev Waifu America, the "crusaders" turn hostile. They ain't crusaders, they are White Knights. Jesus christ!
"You can't join the enclave because they are fascist and racist and objectively bad" and stuff like that. The fuck? But it's okay to join Legion with its even more fascists views, and their views of women as nothing more than cattle? Who wrote this crap?

Legion female soldiers? Wtf? this makes even less sense., do they even care about lore?

"The Enclave are trump supporters" Is pretty much the harakiri of the mod anyway.





I'm saying it right now. The Frontier is to Fallout what My immortal is to Harry Potter.



PS: Got banned on their discord 37 seconds after joining in. I wrote in general chat "Let's make the Enclave great again" and i got insta-banned after 10 seconds by one of the devs. Roflmao.



The scripters and overall modders deserve a place at bethesda, not kidding. But the writers need a brain surgery or something.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 4:57 am

I checked it out too and all I can say is that it really isn't my cup of tea. It also didn't help that I was crashing like crazy either.

Don't get me wrong, there is some neat stuff in there (mindblowing scripting), but the sum of it all together just doesn't work. Neither do all the references and crossovers with all those other games.

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"You can't join the enclave because they are fascist and racist and objectively bad" and stuff like that. The fuck? But it's okay to join Legion with its even more fascists views, and their views of women as nothing more than cattle? Who wrote this crap?
Not a good hornets nest to kick if you ask me; saying anything else would have been better.

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Underground Drugged Lizard-fetish people, with human breeders. The fuck?
The America sex slave thing they did was a bit too much for me.

I actually knew about the lizard people from Tk-Mantis, it apparently wasn't a widely known thing prior to release.

I know what you mean though, I feel as though it kinda lacked any form of leadership and direction. The map and weapons are really cool, and from a technical standpoint, it is outright sorcery. A lot of people worked very hard, and they have my utmost respect. I just had a hard time getting into the mod as a whole. It's all good if other people enjoy it; I'm glad they are having fun. It's just not for me either.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:00 am

Yep. As i said, the programmers seriously need a job at bethesda or any other gaming company, tbh. What they managed to do with (we modders can all agree) one of the most broken engines ever done in the history of gaming, is , as you correctly said it, Sorcery. Kudos to them.


But the writers ? Please. They harakiri-ed their own mod. Disgraceful. SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 am

@roflcopter117 wrote:
I know what you mean though, I feel as though it kinda lacked any form of leadership and direction. The map and weapons are really cool, and from a technical standpoint, it is outright sorcery. A lot of people worked very hard, and they have my utmost respect. I just had a hard time getting into the mod as a whole. It's all good if other people enjoy it; I'm glad they are having fun. It's just not for me either.

It does really feel like they didn't have a cohesive vision for everything and, as a result, everyone just threw their ideas in without regard as to whether or not they really work. It's impressive, and I plan to give it a whirl or two, but it seemed like the sort of project that was going to be doomed to disappoint to some degree.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 am

I totally agree, i havent got as far as you but good lord the whole bit with the legion is just so fucking bad. I love these fan dlcs and the new lands and content they add but i havent seen one that didnt try some way to overblown cringy script, and the low tier VAs really dont help. We all played fallout 3 and knew how bad the ending was, why you would go for a bar lower then that i really dont know. No hate to the authors of the script and mod its just know your storyline and the tone of the universe
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:09 am

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But the writers ? Please. They harakiri-ed their own mod. Disgraceful. SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!

Yeah... a lot of it is really rough. I feel like they should have had some outsiders proof-read it to get some out-group perspectives. In-group bias is a very real phenomenon and sadly, even the best of us are susceptible to it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:18 am

I've been told by a dozen different people that one of the Devs (commonly called the SJW nazi) literally threatened to hold the Mod hostage if she \he (dotn know tbh the gender, coudlnt care less) coudln't do whatever he\she wanted with the story. Sad.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:22 am

Either way, a leader present to say no to certain ideas would have probably helped a lot. Spielberg was such a man to George Lucas. Some people need to occasionally be told no on some ideas. Even myself on here; I have said no and been told no.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:35 am

My negative reviews and my comments are being deleted off the Frontier nexus page.

They are being even more cringy than before.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:46 am

If that's the case, it is very unfortunate. Regardless of how good or bad something is, there will always be criticism; it's something that people need to understand when they put something out on the world wide web. Hell, I enjoy the hell out of TESV but I simultaneously have plenty of criticism directed at it. I've always treaded on eggshells with constructive criticism because I know of many who really don't take it well at all.

I wish the best for everyone who worked hard on it and I hope they eventually filter out the constructive criticism from everything else and use it to create something truly amazing in any possible future projects.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 5:50 am

It's Xilandro. He can't accept the fact they destroyed their own mod and someone wrote it for them to read it.


The dude actually threatened to "Report me", report me for what lol.


EDIT: Xilandro banned me from the Frontier page, after i wrote " /yawn" as a comment.

The author of this page blocked your access to this content. This is not an error with the site and the Nexus staff will not get involved with unblocking your access, so do not contact the moderation team for help. Accessing an author's page is a privilege, not your right.

You can try to amicably resolve this issue with the page author, if they'll let you, but be warned: if you are rude or break our terms of service when contacting the mod author and they report you it's extremely likely you will be banned completely from these sites. Is it worth it? You decide.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 6:06 am

I totally agree with you on that broski ! I wont be wasting anymore time playing that mod.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 7:05 am

As someone who played through the entirety of the NCR questline, let me tell you:

Assuming this questline (the longest, standing at 5 acts) had the most effort and work put into it, it can easily be said that if this questline is as bad as it was that the rest of the mod's content must be easily worse, and that's saying something.

Not to beat a quite dead horse, but the writing is abysmal to the point of somewhere between confused laughter and genuine anger. Gameplay is often creative but certainly not fun, at times.
The entirety of the Enclave segment would be better if it never existed. Ditto with the horror sequences from it and the later vault mission.

And dare I even begin to list off the ridiculous fetish fuel all over the mod:

Drug-fueled sex-crazed lizard-men, horny deathclaw, America (the companion) serving multiple fetishes, a MINOR and her love of sex and porn, etc. - just plain uncomfortable. Fallout has its rare moments like this, but the devs here just went way too far.

The writing is horrendous. The tone shifts randomly at breakneck speed and is rarely consistent for more than 20 minutes, tops.
To the devs' credit, the environment is nice and well-made. That being said, rest of the mod is a chaotic mess.

TL;DR - just don't bother, it ain't worth the time
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 7:37 am

I haven't even so much as laid a finger on the Frontier yet, but after hearing OP's comment, I assumed it was just speculation and exaggeration. But then again, I see multiple people are also saying similar things, and I have to say wow. I wasn't expecting this much fuckery even though I have to say it like it is. I do not intend to offend anyone with my critique and I don't care if I do or not, therefore I am only speaking from a neutral PoV that I cannot say whether I like the mod or hate it.

I'm sure with the hours and days spent in making this project, everything is well made and accommodated for. I respect the skill of talented modders in general, but here we're bringing up highlights of an already fucked-up story scenario, and here I thought Enderal's story was kinda shitty. I loved the atmosphere and landscape that was made in Enderal, but I hated the two endings. But here, the Frontier is,,, something else entirely. I haven't played it yet, and I don't know if I will.

I had hoped the Frontier will at least restore some form of traction to this site/community in struggle, but it seems not as much, and I rather see this site and community last longer than the other communities that disappeared overnight. I do not want another VGU shutdown, but if the Frontier can't restore that fan-traction, what will?

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 8:03 am

Haven't played it, don't plan to. Not with my low-end laptop. That said, even if the option and ability to play it was there, would not do so out of principle. From what I have seen and heard of the devs, especially their behavior that speaks for itself - While I can applaud and give credit where it's due to the commitment of developing the mod in and of itself, the effort is all I can praise.

Lizard fetish, human breeders. No more really needs to be said, easily the most highlighted point.

Can't join Enclave (and that condescending Loading Screen). I've not played FO3 or older games, but from what little I understand is that there is an "Autumn Enclave", at least an idea of it, for a 'good guys Enclave'. To not only deny the option to join them (and especially with the liberties they took with their Lusty Argonian Maids and...Did..Did I see right? Female Legionaries? Okay.) goes against the freedom of choice principle that New Vegas has always been about. Hell, if the For The Enclave mod can do it, absolutely no reason they couldn't. But, there was a reason apparently - "OrAnGe MaN bAd".

Mixing RL Politics into the Mod. Perhaps not as literal as it sounds, but really. "Enclave are Trump supporters". Words... can not express the lightspeed mental gymnastic leaps behind that one. Don't sniff glue, don't do drugs, kids.

The vibe of the mod, no, the devs, it's rubbing me in the worst of ways and reminding me of an incident not too different from where this can head down. I am trying to recall as correctly as I can, feel free to correct me if I am remembering wrong. But wasn't there a particular Skyrim mod author that literally locked his mods away because "OrAnGe MaN bAd?" I think it was Skyrim Civil War Overhaul.
Given that.. Yeah, I'd say "give it time" before it ends up locked. Ha...

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 11:50 am

Woah... I just wanted to install the Frontier... But now I even don't know should I do this... I wanted to ask: is this a COD-like quest lines? I saw a part of it's gameplay. No a fan of things like that. FNV engine is not for cinematic FPS.(I'm always remembering the Hoover dam fight. it's just a peiece of trash)
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 3:56 pm

There are sequences that are copy-pasted from COD games. The Verbirid scene is clearly a Cod Modern Warfare (or perhaps cod BO 2\Advanced Warfare) recreation.
The horror scenes made no sense and are silent hill material.
The Spec Ops The Lien ending is.. Spec Ops the Line.
I can swear in the first part where you have to choose who to save, it's literally copied off Wolfenstein the new order.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 6:04 pm

I'm actually enjoying the Mod until now. Just made a new character for this. Pretended he was a war hero or something, just to make it more believable as to why everyone in the Army thinks i'm so awesome haha.
Only thing that kinda bothered me until now was that one woman that shows up outside the base, casually telling you to join another faction while you're out on a mission surrounded by Troopers XD
The fetish things sound weird, but hey, until now it's been fun. Haven't gotten to the Enclave part yet, kinda sad that it doesn't allow you to join them, I hated that you couldn't join them in Fallout 3 either.
This mod actually reminds me of old call of duty 2 mods.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 6:14 pm

For anyone still unsure after all of the above comments, I invite you to watch "Fallout: the Frontier is a God-Awful Fustercluck" by Rimmy - Downunder Gaming on YouTube, it summarizes everything better than I could.

https://youtu.be/eqZPd29NcSQ
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult EmptyWed Jan 27, 2021 6:17 pm

@CodenameHunk I'd say play it and then make your own judgment. Don't let negative reviews "fool" you, you can't know if you like it if you didn't even try it.

At least I'm having fun. Waited for six years for this mod to be released and I still didn't hype myself too much. It's totally free and made by fans, so I didn't have too high expectations and knew from the start that there might be some stuff which I would not like.

I didn't read this topic that carefully, since I don't want to spoil myself too much. If I see any silly stuff in The Frontier, I just laugh at it and move on. The real major complaint I have is bullet sponge enemies when you play on higher difficulty.

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