gavin gold wrote:

It's woke as all hell.

Because there was a trans person and an interracial couple?

gavin gold wrote:

It literally glorifies communism.

How? Because they say "Communist is what they call people who aren't crazy"? That was a real thing that this is obviously referencing.

gavin gold wrote:

It deletes New Vegas.

It doesn't. Going to be seeing a whole lore more of it in season 2.

gavin gold wrote:

It fucks up the lore yet again.

Admittedly there were a few lore breaks that would've been easy to avoid. Shady Sands is now in LA and the timeline on the chalk board could have been clearer.

gavin gold wrote:

More importantly, what does it bring to the table? How does it expand on the Fallout story?

It returns to the West Coast and expands on the state of the NCR, Enclave, and Western BoS that hasn't been expanded on since 2010?

@Accelerator That was admittedly not my impression. It looks more abandoned than destroyed (which is what tunnellers are supposed to do, collapse buildings since they tunnel under the foundations).

IF that actually becomes true, I'll just put the franchise aside and move on. The damage would be irreparable and unignorable.

Not that I think they will do Vegas justice anyway. Mr. House, being a white, male, rich capitalist can only be portrayed as a villain in a show like that.

@HunterWorld Right, in order:

1. Because every single female character is an empowered hero and every single male character is a soyjack, with the Ghoul being the one exception I suppose. Or have you gotten so used to seeing that in media that you don't notice anymore?

2. Because they're literally blaming the apocalypse on capitalism AND implying that communism would be the solution.

3. You will see a city, I suppose. But whatever they will give you will have nothing to do with the story of FNV.

4. Yeah, that's absolutely "minor and easy to avoid", sure.

5. No. It returns to the West Coast to delete the previous story. You're like those Disney fans that go "at least we're getting more Star Wars!". I don't need new, I certainly don't want it, if all it's going to do is shit all over what was there before.

The TV show didn't destroy New Vegas, it was just a mediocre series that damaged Fallout. And Todd had nothing to do with it.
The directors and writers all said that they didn't think playing the games was necessary, they just wanted to tell a story about "Fallout", killed it and used its corpse as a puppet. Everything on the show feels so-not-Fallout.
The BoS is not like any other BoS we've seen on the games, they're a religious cult full of idiots (but still progressive enough to accept a woman who claims to be non-binary and accept her pronouns).
Ghouls have been retconned yet again.
And yes, the NCR being dissolved into a gang of raiders 4 years after FNV was stupid af.

But what pissed me off the most is the fact they revealed the mistery of "who started the war", and the fact they did it so stupidly and even damaged Mr. House in the process...

Skydrax wrote:

And yes, the NCR being dissolved into a gang of raiders 4 years after FNV was stupid af.

Seems pretty obvious Moldaver outsourced. All the expendable, insane raiders were left to fend for themselves in the vault (to eventually be poisoned), and what I assume are her actual NCR soldiers left with her when she activated the bomb.

The tunnelers would have shown up and started killing everybody eventually anyway, is my response to the first post.