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gavin gold

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyTue Feb 09, 2021 12:17 am

@klaatu27 Let me ask you a genuine question. If you are only playing it for the gameplay, why are you playing this of all things? Why not a different game? Because there are other games out there that have vehicles, and much better gun play, and they don't need to be modded to the extreme. It's not as if you are getting anything unique, every single action scene was plagiarized from a different franchise anyway. And if it's Fallout what you like, well then FO4 and F76 have much better gameplay. You could say "I like NV" but that's the thing, the Frontier is not NV in the slightest. So, why suffer with the archaic gamebryo engine when there are better alternatives out there to get what you want?
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyTue Feb 09, 2021 12:24 am

For me it is enjoyable, I dont care if it is an old engine or if frontier does not have the essence of new vegas 
I don't want a call of duty, I just want to keep playing with my currier on new adventures

look this is what i mean, play as a roleplay

https://www.gunetwork.org/t20774-show-ur-main-character-sole-survivor-courier#344840
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyTue Feb 09, 2021 12:33 am

@gavin gold wrote:
"Gamers should be gassed"

In Phobos's defense, that was a photoshop made by a 4channer. It's why he ragequit making that Enclave questline he was making. Initially, they weren't going to include the Enclave for reasons already listed, but then Phobos agreed to make an Enclave questline to satisfy demand. Shortly after, someone asked him if he ever heard of "16 tons" by Tennessee Ernie Ford, and Phobos responded using a line from the song "some people say a man is made out of mud." That quote was taken, photoshopped to say "All gamers should be gassed" and Phobos got mad and stopped making the Enclave questline.

His reaction was sort of justified though in my opinion. 4channers literally sent it to his employers. That overstepped the mark in my opinion, but it's the internet I guess and these things happen.

@gavin gold wrote:
"Why would I want to join a racist fascist paramilitary organization that's objectively bad" Meanwhile "Oh sexually enslaving an underage girl? That seems just like what the mod needs!"

And the list goes on.

Frontier dev hypocrisy at it's finest. "It's fine for my sexist, degenerate, furry fantasy to have representation in the mod, but YOU wanting to be an ENCLAVE soldier? They're like literal Nazis!"

"But dude, you can join the Legion and the Institute, and they're just as bad. You can even poison the river in Fall.........."

"BUT YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND YOU N A Z I, TRUMP SUPPORTING FASCIST POWER FANTASY INCEL. They're bad because I don't like THEM. Enslaving teen girls is GOOD because I WANT IT."

@gavin gold wrote:
The good new is that the aftermath has been really amusing. However I did saw that Dragbody was accused of being a nazi due to sharing his name with the leader of the Alt Right. Which is unfortunate, it couldn't have been pleasant.  

Wouldn't be surprised if that was another op set up by members of 4chan. It seems too exaggerated and blown out of proportion to be real, even by SJW standards.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyTue Feb 09, 2021 12:51 am

I've been reading the complete thread of contributions from Heisenberg and yes, what the developers did is wrong and they probably knew everything before taking down the mod on nexus.....
Anyway I still think you can enjoy  the mod  and In my case i will continue to playing so without being a SWJ or some kind of perfvert.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyTue Feb 09, 2021 1:30 am

@Heisenberg

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In Phobos's defense, that was a photoshop made by a 4channer.

Last I heard, Phobos did write that and when he was caught, claimed it was photoshopped to cover himself. And the thing is considering everything else he said and how he was treating people, that doesn't sound too far fetched.

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Frontier dev hypocrisy at it's finest. "It's fine for my sexist, degenerate, furry fantasy to have representation in the mod, but YOU wanting to be an ENCLAVE soldier? They're like literal Nazis!"

"But dude, you can join the Legion and the Institute, and they're just as bad. You can even poison the river in Fall.........."

"BUT YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND YOU N A Z I, TRUMP SUPPORTING FASCIST POWER FANTASY INCEL. They're bad because I don't like THEM. Enslaving teen girls is GOOD because I WANT IT."

I've often found that people who virtue signal the loudest do so because they have the most to hide.

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Wouldn't be surprised if that was another op set up by members of 4chan. It seems too exaggerated and blown out of proportion to be real, even by SJW standards.

No, so, Dragbody's real name is apparently Richard Spencer (I hope I'm not doxing him or anything, as far as I know that's public information at this point).

People saw the name in a list related to the mod (*I don't really know whether it was for patreons or contributors or what exactly) and assumed it was the other Richard Spencer (you know, the guy responsible for the Charlotsville fiasco who goes around saying the US should enslave Haitians), forcing Drag to come out and clarify things and ensure the community that despite his name he was not in fact the leader of the Alt right under an alias.  

@klaatu27 Fair enough. I think it's weird to want to play COD in an ancient engine, but you do you.


*EDIT: NVM, I found it. It's the Shooting Course Scoreboard. Richard Spencer (Drag) shows up as the 9th highest score.


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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyTue Feb 09, 2021 6:06 am

If you had the opportunity to do so, how would you rework the Frontier?

The mechanics and the worldspace are fine. But I would rework the NCR campaign from scratch starting from a clean slate, heck I would rework all the faction quest lines. As well, I would get rid of the Enclave entirely from the mod including the Space Station, as well as the Liberator.

Also for the NCR I would rewrite them so that they aren't exiled, rather they are sent there as a sort of expeditionary force scouting out Portland, Oregon as a potential expansion. And well there is emerging factionalism within the NCR military between those loyal to the Republic, while others want succession seeing as they would rather take their chances forming a new nation.
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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyWed Feb 10, 2021 3:49 am

@Aznmagicalman When you have to completely remake all 3 MQ, cut half the content and rewrite half of the dialogue, there's not really any way to rework it. You just take the vehicles, put them into NV and let the mod rot in its grave.

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PostSubject: Re: The Frontier is an Insult   The Frontier is an Insult - Page 5 EmptyFri Feb 19, 2021 11:10 pm

second post with a LOOOOOOOT of hate I see from frontier, im so far to play that, but so curious.. Im starting right now watch a gameplay on youtube ahaha
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