@"xtheoutcastedx" Yeah, but I wouldn't hold any hope of them returning to their roots. And maybe they shouldn't; it's OK to try different things, as long as you're putting some effort into making it right. I was pretty happy with FO4, though I do think there was some room to improve it.

To me the problem is, seeing the massive dumpster fire that was 76, I'm worried they'll keep going in that direction.

I take a very dim view of Fallout 4. I despise nearly all the design choices Bethesda made in that game. Few exceptions like the new Power Armor mechanic aside, I would undo or walk back just about every creative choice Fallout 4's designers made. Despite their age, Fallout 3 and New Vegas walk all over Fallout 4.

Fallout 5, it’s a long time before it appears in the stores, but the first thing Bethesda must do right is creating a fallout better than fallout 4, if not that could be the end of the franchise. I personally loved the gameplay,mechanics and the new look on creatures,items etc in fo4 but I despised most of the quests and removal of karma system but they did a pretty good job on far harbor, far harbor showed how fun fallout 4 could be with good quests.

So Bethesda have a good base for a fallout and all they need to do is make a good main story,side quests, have as little as possible of radiant quests,bring back the karma system and improve on some mechanics, make a amazing map

I personally think that would be the best fallout

How come you guys don't think it's going to be another Fallout 76 kind of game?

@gavin gold I'm fully behind you on that one. 76 and it's initial release was... troubling, to be nice about it. I don't have any friends that play it so I haven't dove deep enough into the game to really give an accurate assessment on it. From what I understand when NPCs were added the game did get better, however I would rather a new Fallout NOT take the same route as 76. I like my single player RPGs sure, but what the hell was that perk system? The crafting was cool and the new enemies were awesome, the gameplay of PVP I've seen is cool too. But other than that I'm not really sure what goes on in that game.

@Constantius We are more so hoping it is not like 76, realistically I think that devs might go a similar route as 76 that they hope is an improved version.

@Constantius because bethesda spoke about how the next fallout would be single player driven experience during fallout 76's bad publicity post launch

@DrCube i agree there, although the institute and synths are fantastic lovely bit of scifi mixed with a moral and ethical dilemma

'76 is actually doing badly, or at least under-performing apparently, which is unusual for Bethesda. Usually the stuff they produce gets SO MUCH HATE and then breaks records, pulls in so much money. So they ignore the hate. There's literally only one thing they care about -- money. If money says "don't do another 76" they'll listen -- and they'll listen to nothing else but that. If 76 starts pulling in tons of cash, they'll do it again and again forever no matter the rage. So lets hope it stays a flop forever.

@Sirdanest it's like i said earlier they already know 76 was a massive F up so now they know to make the next fallout singleplayer, but tbh i just wanted a typical fallout that supported co-op

im hoping fallout 5 has co-op and be in the bay area like sf that would be dope

@famaine i'd like a swampy setting with more aquatic fauna, either that or a proper wasteland, like one of the more heavily war torn cities like that section of the divide in lonesome road where you're underneath and inside all the collapsed buildings that was sick, or even back to the capitol wasteland but have more of the map,

@Kaiser Atlas yess that would be so dope , i really hope they dont hold back like feel thats what everyone wants i want i feel like the cities went crazy i actually would be scared while playing fallout if that makes sense lol

@famaine i enjoyed the ruined city areas in every game i've played and always wished they were bigger imagine boston if it was about 3 times the size with more maze like feel, fallout 3's the pitt style but with the Boston aesthetic and obviously bigger

Fixed your double post no neg rep given
-Hoppyhead