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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk about Fallout 5....   Let's talk about Fallout 5.... - Page 8 EmptyTue May 15, 2018 12:46 pm

I want squad based combat with the ability to give commands and a good story. I don't mind being forced into a type of character mold. As long as it isn't to solid of a mold that it forces me down only one path in the game.

I.E. i wouldn't mind the enclave being in the next game as just remnants. More specifically you play as an enclave remnant this plays into some other ideas i have about character creation as a whole in the next game.
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@sgtrock31  so like the XCOM or Commando mods for fallout? but as a vanilla feature?

personally i want some world crossover, scorchbeasts outside Appalachia, more consistancy with power armor (like where's advanced power armor / X-02 in the commonwealth) why wasn't X-01 in the capital wasteland, why does it seem every region has a new power armor and a complete lack of another (fallout 4 had some random bull for the T-60 so i'll give them that)

also definitely more of the legion from new vegas it'd be interesting to see how'd they'd expand and move on past Caesars eventual death, would they become lanius's legion?

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I honestly try not to think too much about Fallout 5. It's such a long time away, and Bethesda seemingly on a steady decline, who knows what the future holds?
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@Alixen i'd like to be more hopeful maybe they'll learn and not use a terrible engine this time round

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They're going to look at the money. As far as I know, fallout 4 made record amounts of money for them, so they're going to probably go by that, rather than New Vegas. I haven't heard anything official about 76's profits, but from what I've heard, I hope it tanked financially so that they'll actually listen. If 76 is a financial success, we're probably in trouble as far as fallout goes.
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@Alixen

Agreed, it's gonna be a decade before another Fallout comes out. Best not get our hopes up now, especially considering Skyrim is nearly 10 years old and will be long past that by the time TES5 comes out

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@"Sirdanest" So, apparently FO76 has made only about a sixth of what Fallout 4 has made. Plenty of places straight up give it for free now. That makes FO76 the least successful Fallout of all. It's also down from 800000 player when it came out, to less than 50000 these days. Some people report that you have to wait about an hour for the server to get 40 people for the battle royale. So... maybe there's some hope in there. On the other hand, 50000 is still significant and I think that only takes into account sales and not the money they might be bringing in though the atom shop, and you just know there are some people actually paying those ridiculous prices. So who the hell knows...

@"sgtrock31" I'd love it if they would move it to a more shooter/action adventure style game. I'm not saying scrap the RPG aspect of it, I like RPG's, but combat is what makes it fun anyway so they should put more effort in it. And fix the damn flamethrowers, because currently they resemble more those "not a flamethrower"s Elon Musk did as a joke than an actual flamethrower.

But like some people pointed out. It's going to be a long time before we get Fallout5, so... definitely not the time to be thinking about it, dude. You'll drive yourself crazy with the wait.

@"Kaiser Atlas" Dude, the Legion is one of those villains that are cool once but if you keep bringing them in again and again you ruin the whole thing. Those guys wouldn't be able to last even a year without Caesar.
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@gavin gold that's rough for them, good maybe they'll learn to listen and observe what was successful about the better games, honestly at this point my posts on this topic are delusional desires for the next game , but it'll be fun to look back on this in some years and see which people were close to getting elements right

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@"Kaiser Atlas" Maybe. Or Maybe they'll go bankrupt and we'll never get FO5. Hard to tell. There's a point when companies get too big and renowned and they get lazy as a result.

Or maybe they'll just sack Todd. That could help. Assuming they put someone actually good in charge and not some cancerous SJW.
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I want Fallout 5 to take place in the EU . I want to see how other parts of the world were affected by the war .
Story wise , I just hope they do a better job than Fallout 4 . They need to understand that making the player the center of the world is not always a good thing . Also don't force players into being good / bad.
Game mechanics need to be improved . The same thing can be said about the AI and the controls on PC .
My favorite thing about F4 were the followers but like I mentionned earlier , the ai needs to be worked on .
Then again , Fallout 5 won't be coming out untill a couple of years . I propbably won't be getting it but I just hope the game isn't ( or seems ) rushed .
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@Justin_ismyname it would lose it's retro 50's theme though, the rest of the world looked completely different, it'd end up being a totally different aesthetic, not to mention the variations of animals/enemies, deathclaws wouldn't likely be there, the brotherhood of steel wouldn't have any chapters out there, i'd rather keep fallout in america and maybe go to china at the most

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Honestly id love to see a modern Fallout Van Buran or just a Fallout that allowed nation wide travel in the same vain as F1 and F2 and tactics just whenever you would stop and load in on the map you would have either a large city space or badlands to wonder and explore id love to see the karma system return as well as weapon and armor repair going forward witch brings me to skills more perks based on game changing stuff rather then stat boosts and of course for them to put the R back into muh PG closed eyes smile Just over all better storytelling/player choice also less hand holding etc

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My hopes will always be out for another Fallout. I started with Fallout 3 when I was 13 and remember thinking "this game is too hard" then came back to it once I realized I can change difficulty settings (ironic because I play on very hard now with multiple combat mods). Nothing ever beats that feeling of first coming out of the Vault, I relate it to when I was 6 and played Halo Combat Evolved for the first time and exited the drop pod to a beautiful landscape. Those are memories I'll never forget.

I was disappointed with Fallout 4 honestly. I have over 1,500 hours played between 3 & New Vegas so I know what the immersion and overall atmosphere of more modern Fallout games feel like. I understand after years of hiatus that the game series will change with tweaks, graphics, innovations, gameplay changes, and etc. However, 4 did not feel like the others in the series. Not to say it was a bad game because I did enjoy it, but I have only done one playthrough and attempted to do roughly six others with different factions and couldn't bring my self to play it or beat Far Harbor.

Fallout 76 we all know had a one of a kind start, to be nice about it, compared to other modern Fallout games. In recent times 76 is arguably becoming a great game in it's own right, but just like NV it essentially is just another massively modded Fallout to put it in simple terms. I think the concept of 76 was great but the execution could've been better but also has continued to get better with these updates over the last six months or so.

My point you ask? I would want Fallout 5 to return to the roots of 3 and NV. Yes NV was a spin off and it's spiritual successor Outer Worlds coming out relatively soon, but it won't be a true Fallout game. By roots, I also mean even returning to the atmosphere of Fallouts 1 & 2. I don't know how many here have played, I've only dabbled myself, but the feel of those games was way ahead of it's time. The dark humor, real RPG elements, and the overall mechanics of the OG Fallouts made them re-playable even now over 20 years later. If we could have the next Fallout somehow return to the feel of Fallout 3 and NV, with many of the mechanics and atmosphere that made Fallout 1 &2 so great I think we'd have one of the greatest games of all time, arguably so. Like I said earlier, NV was essentially a mod of Fallout 3, a minimalist game with the same voice actor for every "Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter". I believe they tried to do too much with Fallout 4 rather than looking at what has made Fallout so great during the course of the series' existence. NV was praised because it was an amazing game yes, but also essentially Fallout 3 with profligates, strippers, and Fisto. I also may be impartial because of my love for New Vegas.

For Fallout 5, if there will be such a thing, returning to the roots with some of the gameplay changes from Fallout 4 and 76 such as the crafting system would be the way to go. I truly hope they can see how much we, the fans, would enjoy such a masterpiece. Lets hope the same mistake is not made with the Elder Scrolls 6 that was made with Fallout 4. *Once again not saying Fallout 4 is a bad game in any way shape or form*. In my opinion, I believe Bethesda needs to look at what Fallout 3 and New Vegas had done compared to what fallout 4 and 76 have not done for fans. Not a fan service, more of an understanding of what made Fallout so great to us and expand upon that atmosphere and enjoyment without changing the aspects we all find so thrilling.

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@xtheoutcastedx so dark retro futuristic aesthetic, dark zany humor, and larger worldspaces? because i'd happily have had every 3d games map be twice the size even without more locations, i enjoy traveling on foot ingame and encountering enemies and little shacks or ruins

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Yes exactly that! Can’t wait for the Outer Worlds to see if it’ll fill that void in my heart New Vegas left.

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@"xtheoutcastedx" Dude, I hate to be the bringer of bad news but I wouldn't hold my breath for that. If anything, they'll probably go in the complete opposite direction. People always remember the beginning with fondness but they've got to realize developers change and move on.

Honestly, as long as they deliver something decent, and don't go full SJW like so many franchises, I'll be satisfied.
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@gavin gold I may have misspoke, but I am not holding my breath at all. My Utopian society that would contain the perfect Fallout game more than likely will not exist. I'm a realist when it comes to gaming. Look at the original Doom compared to Doom Eternal coming out soon as a prime example. Technology changes as do gamers, developers, and their fan base. Doom had to change so many times over to become what it is today. Yes you still kill many, many demons but it is not the same game it used to be and it's not just graphics that show that.

I'm not expecting that they will create what I would believe to be the perfect Fallout game, I just hope they return to roots as opposed to going out of left field and replacing everything we know and love or trying to do something crazy (Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare's campaign and how fans received it for example).

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@xtheoutcastedx i'd prefer new content that doesn't retcon or clash with anything we've had enough enclave antagonists, do a new vegas and have them as a minor story component, i enjoyed what fallout 4 tried with making new factions, particularly the institute, they butchered the brotherhood though, they did go back to the roots of the brotherhood but then made the near fascist

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@Kaiser Atlas the best part, in my opinion, is the ability to mod Fallout games. I could talk your ear off with potential improvements but those could also mostly be done through mods. Gameplay mechanics, weapons, crafting, worldspace, anything really as we all know. I agree with a lot of what you said, especially with butchering of the Brotherhood. They get an A for effort. I just think too much was attempted to change and that's what led them down the rabbit hole. Given it was also what, 7 years after Fallout 3 (correct me if I'm wrong) so I understand much changes with the engine, designer's ideas and views, and so on. The thing is, most of my friends enjoy 4 over 3 and NV because they started with 4 so they think that is the pinnacle of the RPG world. I guess it just depends on the player truth be told.

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I want Bethesda to do a good RPG with choices and good writing, but i doubt that will happen.

So they should make a fallout game with a specific protagonist in the fallout setting. We will be introduced to his/her backstory, use SPECIAL to get perk system like The Evil Within, we can focus on more important story choices (HIGHLY doubt BGS will make anything good) since the story will be more condensed, and we will grow to like this protagonist and the companions we make along the way



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