Gaming Underground Network

Come for the mods, stay for the community
 
HomePortalLatest imagesInterviewsRegisterLog in
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search
Info Panel
______________
MOD MASTER THREADS:
FALLOUT
THE ELDER SCROLLS

______________


______________


GUNinsider
Fallout Miami: Mika999
Stay Connected

GUNetwork
Keywords
ghoul Ryse power Call Reforged Gear boomers hunk khan daryl marvel dead money commonwealth riot mandalorian vault Mask NPCs Superpele wolfenstein gauss body Overhaul machine boom
Latest topics
» A long overdue introduction
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Athallah Akbar Yesterday at 6:46 pm

» (Fo4) fo76 Steel Dawn Weapons and Armor ports
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Nicward Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:50 pm

» Howdy from grandmastoes
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Apoc Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:06 am

» armor slot changing in creation kit
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Meno Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:22 pm

» The Fallout TV show destroyed NV. I'm done with Todd.
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby gavin gold Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:22 pm

» {Multi Choice POLL} Fallout 3 or Fallout NV music?
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby HardComma Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:42 am

» Hello from nexus
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby noacctname1 Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:54 am

» Who Would Win: Ulysses or Joshua Graham?
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby BellToadTall Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:06 pm

» The Next fallout
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby BellToadTall Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:01 pm

» Your favorite mods for F:NV
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby BellToadTall Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:55 pm

» Whats the Number 1 mod you really want? (NV)
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby CosmoMods Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:52 am

» Unpopular Opinion: Too many mods ruin the game
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Evmeister Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:11 pm

» Guns you want in Fallout
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Lupinboi Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:21 am

» black doors in sierra madre bug
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Wɪmzɪkl Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:27 pm

» Any Titanfall mods out their that have the female sniper armor?
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby john96 Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:14 am

» Modder looking for gun mods
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Bset Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:33 pm

» schorched enclave officer
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Smash96 Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:13 pm

» Sup everyone (link funny shorts here)
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby DHB00P Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:29 am

» Late Introduction
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Battleclad Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:29 am

» Greetings!
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Emptyby Primus_Daibhidh Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:01 pm

April 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
2930     
CalendarCalendar
_
April 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
2930     
CalendarCalendar

Share
 

 What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
RangerJosh

RangerJosh

Posts : 336
Join date : 2015-05-10
Age : 23
Location : Northern Ireland

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySun May 10, 2020 7:40 pm

Hello there Smile

I know many, many people do not like the Star Wars Sequels and that's ok (personally I love them, and they are among some of my favourite Star Wars movies but hey ho).

Even though you may not enjoy the Sequels as a whole, what is your favourite (Star Wars - Edit) Sequel movie and why?

Just a bit of Sunday positivity Smile


Last edited by RangerJosh on Sun May 10, 2020 9:32 pm; edited 3 times in total
Back to top Go down
ElectricRed2619

ElectricRed2619

Posts : 63
Join date : 2020-04-17

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySun May 10, 2020 8:07 pm

Hmm this is a tuff one. I am much more of LOTR fan so I guess I would say The Two Towers. I didn't care much for the Star Wars sequels but I actually enjoyed the prequels more. I was also around 6-7 when those movies came out and now when I rewatch them I can clearly see the horrible dialogue/bad acting but I still enjoy them I think simply for the nostalgia factor and that it reminds me of when I was a kid. So thats probably why. I think if the prequels were to have come out now with me currently being in my 20s id probably have a totally different opinion about them lol
Back to top Go down
RangerJosh

RangerJosh

Posts : 336
Join date : 2015-05-10
Age : 23
Location : Northern Ireland

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySun May 10, 2020 9:32 pm

ElectricRed2619 wrote:
Hmm this is a tuff one. I am much more of LOTR fan so I guess I would say The Two Towers. I didn't care much for the Star Wars sequels but I actually enjoyed the prequels more.  I was also around 6-7 when those movies came out and now when I rewatch them I can clearly see the horrible dialogue/bad acting but I still enjoy them I think simply for the nostalgia factor and that it reminds me of when I was a kid. So thats probably why. I think if the prequels were to have come out now with me currently being in my 20s id probably have a totally different opinion about them lol

That's fair, Two Towers is a great movie, I'd say my favourite out of all of them is Return of the King.

Which of the Star Wars Sequels is your favourite movie? Smile P.s. Sorry for confusion, should've been more clear lol
Back to top Go down
Tribal Raven

Tribal Raven

Posts : 1256
Join date : 2014-02-24
Age : 27
Location : The New World

Character sheet
Name: Jack
Faction: No Gods, No Masters
Level: 50

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptyMon May 11, 2020 2:45 am

Personally, I felt that the Force Awakens was a remake of A New Hope, so it didn't feel all that special for me.

I hated The Last Jedi with a burning passion, still do.

So I guess I would go with Rise of Skywalker. I think it was the first of the three to be unique and original. It had a meh plot imo but it certainly tried to fix all the bullshit that Rian Johnson set up in the second film.

_________________
____________________________________________________________
When you're lost in the darkness... Look for light
Back to top Go down
IRORIEH

IRORIEH

Posts : 864
Join date : 2015-04-09
Age : 27
Location : UK

Character sheet
Name: Booker
Faction: The highest bidder
Level: 21

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptyMon May 11, 2020 3:24 am

Being one of the few people who actually enjoyed TLJ, probably that. For as much as people hate it, at least it was original. I liked the way it used the setting to try out some different things, make the series a little more grey. Did it have cringy moments? Yes. But I honestly feel like people hate on it solely because of what happened with Luke, and yeah sure great, but if you want the stories where he's Jedi grandmaster, taking on the Yuuzhan Vong or Abeloth then go read them (and you absolutely should, they are amazing stories). It was very reminiscent of KOTOR to me thematically, being a lot darker and actually challenging the idealism of the source material, and while I will always vastly perfer the original EU, I respect the fact that it was the only movie in the series that felt like it had the balls to go against the grain and do something different with the IP than just remaking older movies.

Speaking of which, The Force Awakens was honestly kind of boring, just a rehash that followed a comfortable trend and didn't stray from the outline. Rise of Skywalker was just a safe way to end. It walked back a lot of stuff in TLJ, and just felt like a messy conclusion. Also Rey saying her name was Rey skywalker at the end was my least favourite moment in the entire franchise. I saw someone sum it up by saying she may as well have called herself Rey Star Wars...

My major issue, and primary defense of the Last Jedi, is the lack on new ideas and original ideas. The stuff in Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker is watered down ideas from the EU, like the resurgent empire, or the return of Palpatine. But they fall so flat because the path there is so inconsistent.

_________________
Muwahahahahahahaha!!!
What do you mean evil laugh!? This is how I always laugh!
Bow Down:
Back to top Go down
RangerJosh

RangerJosh

Posts : 336
Join date : 2015-05-10
Age : 23
Location : Northern Ireland

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptyMon May 11, 2020 12:57 pm

Ok, so I love all of the Sequels for different reasons. P.s. This is gonna be long winder lol.

Force Awakens
I do understand that people may say that it is a rehash of A New Hope and that's why it could be bad.
Personally I don't really get this criticism. Is Return of the Jedi bad because it has a 2nd Death Star? Is Return of the Jedi bad for having the start of the movie take place on Tatooine aka a Sandy Planet? No I don't think so, plus it's different in so many different aspects that it's unique in it's own way. Whilst there's a 2nd Death Star, you've got different aspects like Endor, the Emperor, the conflict between Vader and Luke that it's fresh.
I personally get those types of vibes from Force Awakens. Yes there's "another Death Star", yes there's an orphan set on a desert planet. But just because there are ideas that are similar to the other movies doesn't necessarily mean that it is bad.
1. Kylo Ren in general
2. The Search for Luke Skywalker
3. The defection of a Stormtrooper aka Finn
4. The mid section of the film, with places like Takodana and so on.
5. Han Solo - This includes the character development of him transitioning from a sceptic of the force to someone who believes in it's existence. There's also his character development from not wanting to save Ben Solo and not believing he can be, to the end of the movie where he tries to reach out to him, only to get killed.

So I really enjoy Force Awakens, and I remember when it first came out how the majority of the reaction was positive around it, so I do think that the reaction to the other movies may have tainted it slightly.
Btw, this is my favourite Sequel movie! Smile

The Last Jedi
So, this is gonna be difficult lol.
Firstly I agree with @IRORIEH. I really enjoyed this movie for the same reasons.
If there's one thing that most people can agree with concerning this movie, it's that the visuals are absolutely stunning. Like, it's one of, if not the most visually striking Star Wars movies. Sets like the Throne Room, Ach-Tu, and Crait especially are gorgeous, creative, and different.
Another thing that most people can agree with is that the Finn and Rose plotline... wasn't that good, and I agree with them.
However, for me, The Last Jedi is so unique and different with it's themes.
Hold on, Luke Skywalker isn't perfect?! Surely not! How dare they?!
Em, this is the character of Luke Skywalker that we see in the Original Trilogy. He can be bratty, annoying, impulsive and he's suspicious of the Jedi in general. Literally, Obi Wan and Yoda kept the truth of Vader being Luke's father away from him, arguing it from a "certain point of view". Of course Luke is going to be disillusioned with the Jedi, and yes, he's write in saying that the "Jedi" in the traditional sense DOES NOT WORK.
That's what the Prequels were aiming at, and the Clone Wars too. The Jedi were so blinded about their own abilities that they let a Sith Lord rise to the top of the food chain.
That's what I love about The Last Jedi. It questions Star Wars, in a way that makes sense and is not insulting.
Believe me, I could talk about The Last Jedi all day, but I won't lol, no one wants to see that.
So... finally...

Rise of Skywalker
Again, I loved this movie, however, there are some things that are wrong with it.
It just feels rushed, and I personally wasn't a huge fan of the way Rey was a Palpatine, I preferred the idea that she was a nobody from TLJ but anyway.
So, Rise of Skywalker. I enjoy the dynamic between the three leads of the movie, finally together as a group, and it's great to see them together.
I love the fact that Kylo Ren became Ben Solo, and I was so glad to the pay off in this movie. One of the main parts that I love about this movie, is the fact that in order to get to the point of the Ben's Redemption, each of the three OT guys have had to sacrifice themselves in order to get this redemption.
For example
Force Awakens - Han Solo sacrifices himself
The Last Jedi - Luke Skywalker sacrifices himself
Rise of Skywalker - Leia Organa sacrifices herself

And all of these sacrifices take place in order for Ben Solo to come back to the light.
The different places in this movie are also great.
From Mustafar at the start to Ajan Kloss, to Exegol, they all look great.

And Rey... Skywalker... I don't hate it,
I do think it would've been better if she said "I'm Rey... Just Rey", but that's whatever, I understand why they did it, plus the movie is literally called "Rise of Skywalker".
Plus the Yellow Lightsaber reveal is badass.

So yup, there's my defense of the Sequels Very Happy

TLDR - Force Awakens is my favourite.
Back to top Go down
TheLastJuan

TheLastJuan

Posts : 5
Join date : 2020-06-18
Age : 28

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptyFri Jun 19, 2020 9:43 pm

The Last Jedi is the best of the three, by an incredibly large marging. Not only it had beautiful cinematography, it had great performances, a fantastic lesson at it's core, and it turned Kylo Ren in the best Star Wars villan ever.

It gave me some KOTOR II vibes, and I fucking love KOTOR II.
Back to top Go down
x-x--GX--x-x

x-x--GX--x-x

Posts : 32
Join date : 2020-12-29
Location : Outer Heaven

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 2:35 pm

The Force Awakens, it is not bad nor great, just right in the middle. Hated the other two with passion, TLJ was unbearable (couldn't finish it, tried 3 times but couldn't, it is very, very bad). Episode IX was just awful, not as bad a TLJ, but awful. The ending was amazingly bad, the "I am Rey"... "Rey Skywalker" (James Bond wants his f* line back) made me laugh my a** off. 
Meme:

_________________
What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? 4Bco


"I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you. Plant your roots in me. I won't see you end as ashes. You're all diamonds."
Back to top Go down
Scubajones

Scubajones

Posts : 24
Join date : 2017-10-19

Character sheet
Name: Character
Faction:
Level:

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySat Jun 19, 2021 5:34 am

I know this isn't an official sequel as is takes place before the originals but since it was made in the sequel era I'm gonna say what the hell why not. It would have to be Rogue One. I really did not enjoy the sequel movies but Rogue One gave me LITERALLY a new hope for the future of Star Wars. It was such an amazingly well crafted movie that ties into the established cannon so well. Plus that Darth Vader scene at the end was fuckin sick
Back to top Go down
ilovebees.com

ilovebees.com

Posts : 25
Join date : 2021-06-25

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptyFri Jun 25, 2021 10:12 am

Scubajones wrote:
I know this isn't an official sequel as is takes place before the originals but since it was made in the sequel era I'm gonna say what the hell why not. It would have to be Rogue One. I really did not enjoy the sequel movies but Rogue One gave me LITERALLY a new hope for the future of Star Wars. It was such an amazingly well crafted movie that ties into the established cannon so well. Plus that Darth Vader scene at the end was fuckin sick

Totally agree. Absolutely loved the hallway scene. One of my favourite scenes in all of Star Wars.

If I had to pick from one of the sequel trilogy, I suppose I would pick The Force Awakens. I particularly liked the way Kylo was introduced, the shot of him igniting his lightsaber in the snowy forest, and it was fantastic to see Harrison Ford return as Han Solo. The Force Awakens also gave me the opportunity to see a Star Wars movie in a cinema, which was an unforgettable experience for me, even if I didn't particularly enjoy the way the sequels ended up. Getting to see the opening crawl in a packed theatre of fans was an emotional moment for me, as a lifelong fan.
Back to top Go down
Scubajones

Scubajones

Posts : 24
Join date : 2017-10-19

Character sheet
Name: Character
Faction:
Level:

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySat Jun 26, 2021 10:53 pm

ilovebees.com wrote:
Scubajones wrote:
I know this isn't an official sequel as is takes place before the originals but since it was made in the sequel era I'm gonna say what the hell why not. It would have to be Rogue One. I really did not enjoy the sequel movies but Rogue One gave me LITERALLY a new hope for the future of Star Wars. It was such an amazingly well crafted movie that ties into the established cannon so well. Plus that Darth Vader scene at the end was fuckin sick

Totally agree. Absolutely loved the hallway scene. One of my favourite scenes in all of Star Wars.

If I had to pick from one of the sequel trilogy, I suppose I would pick The Force Awakens. I particularly liked the way Kylo was introduced, the shot of him igniting his lightsaber in the snowy forest, and it was fantastic to see Harrison Ford return as Han Solo. The Force Awakens also gave me the opportunity to see a Star Wars movie in a cinema, which was an unforgettable experience for me, even if I didn't particularly enjoy the way the sequels ended up. Getting to see the opening crawl in a packed theatre of fans was an emotional moment for me, as a lifelong fan.
Yes dude! That hallway scene just reinforces how truly terrifying Darth Vader is. If you want more stuff life that you gotta read the Darth Vader comic that was written. It really shows him in his prime and is canon. Or listen to Star Wars theory read it.

Yeah if I had to pick force awakens is probably the only sequel watchable for me. My first star wars theatre experience was Clone Wars so its got this special place in my heart.

_________________
Gotta Like These Odds
Back to top Go down
ilovebees.com

ilovebees.com

Posts : 25
Join date : 2021-06-25

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptySun Jun 27, 2021 6:31 am

Scubajones wrote:
ilovebees.com wrote:
Scubajones wrote:
I know this isn't an official sequel as is takes place before the originals but since it was made in the sequel era I'm gonna say what the hell why not. It would have to be Rogue One. I really did not enjoy the sequel movies but Rogue One gave me LITERALLY a new hope for the future of Star Wars. It was such an amazingly well crafted movie that ties into the established cannon so well. Plus that Darth Vader scene at the end was fuckin sick

Totally agree. Absolutely loved the hallway scene. One of my favourite scenes in all of Star Wars.

If I had to pick from one of the sequel trilogy, I suppose I would pick The Force Awakens. I particularly liked the way Kylo was introduced, the shot of him igniting his lightsaber in the snowy forest, and it was fantastic to see Harrison Ford return as Han Solo. The Force Awakens also gave me the opportunity to see a Star Wars movie in a cinema, which was an unforgettable experience for me, even if I didn't particularly enjoy the way the sequels ended up. Getting to see the opening crawl in a packed theatre of fans was an emotional moment for me, as a lifelong fan.
Yes dude! That hallway scene just reinforces how truly terrifying Darth Vader is. If you want more stuff life that you gotta read the Darth Vader comic that was written. It really shows him in his prime and is canon. Or listen to Star Wars theory read it.

Yeah if I had to pick force awakens is probably the only sequel watchable for me. My first star wars theatre experience was Clone Wars so its got this special place in my heart.

I've actually watched quite a bit of Star Wars Theory, but never watched him read the comics. I'll have to check that out. His Vader fan film was amazing. I'm excited for him to put out the second part. It's a shame he can't make any money from it since Disney has a iron fist on that kind of stuff. It's purely a passion project but the quality he puts into it is stellar.

And I agree about how the hallway scene reinforces Vader. For years, fans wanted to see Vader show off his full power on the big screen, and we finally got it! I think part of what makes it so good is that the scene isn't integral to the plot, but it's thrown in there just for the fans and will show new fans to Star Wars just how dangerous of an enemy Vader is.
Back to top Go down
RalinDrakus

RalinDrakus

Posts : 23
Join date : 2020-04-29

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? EmptyWed Aug 25, 2021 8:17 am

Scubajones wrote:
I know this isn't an official sequel as is takes place before the originals but since it was made in the sequel era I'm gonna say what the hell why not. It would have to be Rogue One. I really did not enjoy the sequel movies but Rogue One gave me LITERALLY a new hope for the future of Star Wars. It was such an amazingly well crafted movie that ties into the established cannon so well. Plus that Darth Vader scene at the end was fuckin sick

Amen to this Okay

I'm an unashamed hater of the entire sequel trilogy and Solo. Add to that I don't think The Mandalorian is nearly as good as it's cracked up to be, it's simply good by comparison. In my eyes, the entire Disney buyout has led to one dumpster fire film after another.

The only shockingly good exception to this rule was Rogue One.

In a nutshell, my issues with the sequels are: TFA was a blatant photocopied plagiarism of a New Hope, and they didn't even try to hide it. The only differences are things that made it Not live up to the original - Goth Vader knockoff became less and less intimidating as the film wore on, climaxed with his getting wrecked by 'a girl who'd never held a lightsaber before.' The roguish Han Solo knockoff disappeared for 3/4 of the movie. The gender swapped Luke (and this isn't a knock against Daisy - I think she could have down a legitimately fine job if they'd be working with an actual original script with a half coherent story) being a master level everything from the moment you meet her. Butt-hole-eyed not-Yoda-lady randomly knowing everything, having Luke's saber that was lost in Ep V, but in a perfect throwback to Lost just leaving all that info dangling and just moving on. Absolutely ZERO world building - Two conversations that last maybe 5 minutes combined in Ep IV between Vader, the Imp officers, and Tarkin give enough backstory to validate New Hope, a file that creates out of nothing the entire SW Universe - but JJ can't be bothered to link anything in his film to the DECADES of SW content hes riding in on or give even the slightest hint as to what the hell is going on, like why there's still a Rebel Alliance totally separate from the Republic thirty years after destroying the Empire... I could go on but I just remembered this was supposed to be a nutshell review XD. I just get really worked up about TFA because it's the one that set up the train wreck that is the next two films, but gets the biggest pass from all the fans when it doesn't deserve it. It's just as bad if not worse than TLJ

Speaking of The Last Jedi, I could write another book, but I'll leave it at my biggest issue: The total and complete rape of Luke Skywalker's character and everything he ever stood for.. RJ spit in the face of that character and did it with that smug smile of his, and I'll be bitter about that to my dying day.

There was no saving the trilogy after that so I abstained from watching 9 and have no plans to ever see it. The best summation I can give of what the message of these films was that the work, sacrifice, and and achievements of the Original Trilogy meant absolutely nothing. Literally.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty
PostSubject: Re: What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?   What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie? Empty

Back to top Go down
 

What is the Best Star Wars Sequel Movie?

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

 Similar topics

-
» favorite star wars movie
» favorite star wars movie and why?
» favorite star wars movie and why?
» Favourite Star Wars Movie + Why?
» What would be your ideal Star Wars spin off movie?

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Gaming Underground Network :: Star Wars :: Discussion-