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PostSubject: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 4:25 am

Really weird issue that I can't seem to find replicated anywhere else on the internet. Basically, my game will launch in one of two states: Choppy with high FPS, and butter-smooth with high FPS.

More specifically, I'll load a save, and regardless of where I am (I have a 3070), if my game has done a 'choppy' launch, my frames when turning the camera will be rough and despite my high FPS, this will not change. If my game has done a 'butter-smooth' launch, my FPS will be the same as always, but there's no subtle choppiness when turning the camera.


Perhaps the most frustrating part of this problem is that the parameters for either of these launches occurring is beyond me, with butter-smooth FPS achieved at random, and the same for choppy.

I have NVTF and OneTweak, the ini's for which I have played with extensively to no avail.

I'm using reshade, not ENB.

I have VSync disabled in my ini's, and seemingly enabling and disabling iFPSClamp does nothing.

MO2 is installed on the same drive as my game.

I've tried disabling all of my mods individually to no avail.

This bout of choppiness seems to occur entirely spontaneously, and I have no idea how to stop it.

Sometimes I'll have about 4 launches in a row that yield smooth gameplay, and sometimes I won't be able to get a smooth launch for the whole day.


My load order is pretty extensive, but I have the Mod Limit Fix and no other noticeable problems in my save. It is as follows.
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
BraveNewWorld.esm
MoreMojave.esm
TGMIO.esm
New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm
New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esm
Asterra's Many Fixes.esp
NVInteriors_Core.esm
Navmesh Fixes and Improvements.esm
TLD_Travelers.esm
Tales from the Burning Sands.esm
NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
LCSO.esm
LFSO.esm
vault22FloralOverhaul.esm
A World of Pain Revised.esm
The Frontier.esm
Cyberware.esm
Caliber.esm
GreatKhanGreatOverhaul.esm
oHUD.esm
Ragdolls.esm
SolidProject.esm
SomeguySeries.esm
Tammer's NIF-Bashed Armor and Outfits Pack.esm
Tammer's NIF-Bashed Weapons Mega-Pack.esm
WeAreLegion.esm
WMR.esm
Bitter Springs Redesigned.esp
JokerineStripMall.esm
D.E.I.M.O.S..esm
More Perks.esm
WMVM.esm
FCOMaster.esm
Gomorrah Redesigned v2.esp
Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
Vurt's WFO.esp
Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover.esp
FSRC.esp
Simply Uncut - New Vegas.esp
STDG.esp
WMIMNV.esp
Brightweight Strip Overhaul.esp
TFHotfix.esp
Logic and Consistency Fixes.esp
JSawyer Ultimate.esp
Occlusion.esp
outsidebets.esp
NVxMcCarranMonorailAnimation_AAMpatch.esp
AAM.esp
EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp
Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style + No Chanced).esp
TfaT2.esp
All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp
31 New Food Items.esp
More Perks Update.esp
NVR3_YUP Patch.esp
1nivVSLArmors.esp
MMWFOPatch.esp
Little More Lamplight.esp
Better Strip View.esp
NewVegasUncut 123457 Merged.esp
Russell.esp
AmmoCraftingSchematics.esp
ACS-CaliberX.esp
MBFNPCs.esp
Casino Crowds.esp
wheelsinthewasteland.esp
LVS.esp
MMDD.esp
WestsideSuburbsUncut.esp
FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp
ADAM Complete.esp
BraveNewWorld-YUP.esp
NCROverhaul.esp
ADAM - MERGE.esp
BraveNewWorld-OutsideBets.esp
MojaveSandyDesert.esp
Nipton Fires Extinguished.esp
BR_MeatPrepAnimations.esp
PowderIsTheNewBlack.esp
Highwayman.esp
Prospectors.esp
Mercy Killing Karma v2.0.esp
NVR3_OutsideBets Patch.esp
Alternative Repairing.esp
Lucky38Overhaul.esp
Collectible Canteens.esp
NukaColaOverhaul.esp
Cyberware OWB.esp
Better Character Creation.esp
NVMMP.esp
KingOfTheRing.esp
NewVegasBountiesIII.esp
TheBetterAngels.esp
UniqueMultiplas.esp
AAACanonCourierArmor.esp
Alternative Repairing - Honest Hearts.esp
Alternative Repairing - Lonesome Road.esp
Animated Ingestibles.esp
ArmorForCompanions.esp
B42 RWMS.esp
B42Descriptions.esp
B42Inertia.esp
B42Inspect.esp
HomemadeSMG.esp
GlovesGalore.esp
GlovesGalore_DeadMoney.esp
M37Ithaca.esp
M1897.esp
B42Wristwatch.esp
Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp
Better Burned Man.esp
BLEEDNV.esp
EuclidCFPlus.esp
Boacombat2glove.esp
BoomersGoBoom.esp
BrotherhoodReforged.esp
BraveNewWorld-JSU.esp
WeAreLegion.esp
BuryYourTreasure.esp
CombatEnhancer.esp
CourierArmoredCoat.esp
Currency of the Mojave.esp
Damage Settings.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp
Dean's Glasses 01.esp
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DTDRAdder.esp
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Enhanced Vision.esp
EnhancedDoF.esp
FadeToBlack.esp
Simple Interior Lighting.esp
FlashlightNVSE.esp
FNV-PC idles.esp
Food Scraps.esp
FOVSlider.esp
Fps Hold Breath.esp
Helmet Overlay.esp
HitOwnership.esp
hz_Empty Clicks.esp
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Immersive Primary Needs.esp
ImmersiveRecoil.esp
Imp's Timescale Adjuster.esp
JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp
Karma Perks.esp
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LiveDismember.esp
Lucky38 Climate Fixed.esp
MassRecalibration.esp
MauserC96.esp
MigPunchGuns.esp
MoreBeardAndMoustacheStyles.esp
NPCs Can Miss.esp
NPCsSprint.esp
OneManArmy.esp
PerkEveryLevel.esp
Pip-Boy Glove Removeable.esp
Player Headtracking.esp
pyDoF.esp
Quickthrow.esp
QuickUse.esp
R.A.C.E. Station.esp
RetrievableThrowables.esp
rockbiter_AnimationSounds.esp
SecuritronsOnAlert.esp
Sideburns.esp
SideburnsBeardShort.esp
Take Chems Make Fiends.esp
TFH Better Authority Glasses.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
TheBackpack.esp
Unfound Loot.esp
Universal Pip-Boy Customization.esp
Universal Water Bottling.esp
verBackpack.esp
VM_Recoil.esp
xatmosSkillPerks.esp
WastelandGourmet.esp
WMR_DeadMoney_R.esp
WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_R.esp
WMR_HonestHearts_R.esp
WMR_LonesomeRoad_R.esp
WMR_OldWorldBlues_R.esp
WMR_Vanilla_R.esp
Frontier - Arachnophobia Patch.esp
Frontier - Enable Slaves Harbour.esp
Simple Explosive Entry.esp
ACS-DLCMerged.esp
Bullet Impact Increased LOD.esp
Cloth Impacts - Decal and Effects.esp
Weapon Retexture Project.esp
IMPACT.esp
Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp
Improved Sound FX - GRA.esp
Improved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.esp
Improved Sound FX - LR Sharing Fix.esp
Improved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.esp
ThrowableFixes.esp
DLC Weapon Integration.esp
HTRP-Daily Vendor Restock.esp
AmmoScriptFixes.esp
MigNammo.esp
BetterSaves.esp
cswnc.esp
cswncDM.esp
cswncGRA.esp
cswncHH.esp
TGMIO_Logic_and_Consistency_Fixes_Patch.esp
JustAssortedMods.esp
Economy Overhaul.esp
True Leaning.esp
Follower Formula Redone.esp
Universal Item Sorter.esp
UMI - Useful Misc Items.esp
CPI Icons.esp
Titans of The New West - No Backpack.esp
Titans of The New West.esp
MCPipBoy2000MK6_clock.esp
Strip Lighting Overhaul.esp
Uncut Strip NPCs.esp
BSO_Iguazu.esp
NVR3R-Override-Vanilla-BNW-Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
WWP 45 Pistol replacer.esp
FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - All DLC.esp

Any help here is greatly appreciated. I'm at my wits end with this!
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PostSubject: Re: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 4:32 am

Do you get the stutter without all these plugins active as well (Vanilla game + fixes like NVTF)? Knowing this will help narrow down the possibilities.

Having the mod limit fix is something that only removes the hard engine limit on mods, it does not fix any possible performance issues caused by certain combinations of mods.

Does this happen on a fresh save too?

Does Reshade use any kind of frame limiter? If so, have you tried disabling it and using the game's vsync instead?

Lastly, for the sake of troubleshooting, could you share the rest of your PC specs?
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PostSubject: Re: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 4:55 am

roflcopter117 wrote:
Do you get the stutter without all these plugins active as well (Vanilla game + fixes like NVTF)? Knowing this will help narrow down the possibilities.

Having the mod limit fix is something that only removes the hard engine limit on mods, it does not fix any possible performance issues caused by certain combinations of mods.

Does this happen on a fresh save too?

Does Reshade use any kind of frame limiter? If so, have you tried disabling it and using the game's vsync instead?

Lastly, for the sake of troubleshooting, could you share the rest of your PC specs?

I specifically tried this on a fresh save a week or so ago (downloading a fresh save, and starting my own new game), the issue persists there.

I'll have to check that reshade frame limiter thing when I get home, sounds like something that could exist.

This is my CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz 3.70 GHz
I have 16GB of ram installed.
A 64-bit operating system, running windows 10.
As previously mentioned, a NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070

Not sure if I've missed anything, please let me know if I have.

I appreciate your prompt response and any future help. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptyMon Sep 20, 2021 6:55 pm

Try deleting Fallout.ini and FalloutPrefs.ini in ...\Documents\my games\FalloutNV

Sometimes the .ini files can create problems.
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PostSubject: Re: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 6:44 am

anstand wrote:
Try deleting Fallout.ini and FalloutPrefs.ini in ...\Documents\my games\FalloutNV

Sometimes the .ini files can create problems.

Unfortunately that hasn't worked. Thanks for the suggestion though (it has alleviated other errors of mine in past!). I'll keep looking and update if I find a fix.
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PostSubject: Re: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 7:28 am

Were you playing anything before starting up Fallout New Vegas?

Maybe another game is giving you a memory leak. I had that problem with Killing Floor 2 for a long time.
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PostSubject: Re: [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game.   [FNV] Inconsistent stutter when launching game. EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 7:31 am

anstand wrote:
Were you playing anything before starting up Fallout New Vegas?

Maybe another game is giving you a memory leak. I had that problem with Killing Floor 2 for a long time.

I had considered this last week, and closed everything I wasn't using except New Vegas before launching it, to no avail.

In fact, I once tried the opposite; launching whilst CS:GO was already open, which, much to my surprise, bore smooth FPS (not reliably however).

Thanks again for your contribution.

EDIT: In the absolute miracle that someone else stumbles across this, after so many weeks of troubleshooting, I am now able to enjoy a stable, stutterless game! The fix was simple: Unplug your second monitor before launching the game. I thought I would have to do a full reinstall to get rid of this problem for a while there. Damn this was frustrating. Hopefully this helps someone.
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