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PostSubject: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptySun Jul 09, 2017 4:46 pm

The "Tops' Light Bug", like I have finally called it, is an annoying problem that I have not succeed to solve at present.
The Tops may be lit up by daytime and not by nighttime. Sometimes the light works during the day at a close distance, but turns off when you are taking away from the casino, so it could be a LOD problem too.
I did many tests and I think the problem could be linked to ENBs or being a random Vanilla bug.
I am not a creator of mods and my abilities in this area are limited. So I really need your help.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyMon Jul 10, 2017 9:30 am

Would you kindly give us your load order, any installed mods, and the ENB that you're using?

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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyMon Jul 10, 2017 10:45 am

Thank you. Here is the mods I have installed so far.

Mod Organizer by Tannin
New Vegas Script Extender (NVSE) - nvse_5_0_beta3
FNV 4GB Patcher by Roy Batty - LuthienAnarion
LOOT
FNVEdit by ElminsterAU
Wrye Flash NV by valda
Merge Plugins by Mator
JIP LN NVSE Plugin by jazzisparis and LuthienAnarion
Simple Saves by PushTheWinButton
NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash by Queue
New Vegas Stutter Remover by SkyRanger-1
OneTweak for FNV by virusek
Fallout.ini Tweaks [Fear and Loathing in New Vegas]
ENB Boost
Better Game Performance V5 by Falloutperson416
Zan AutoPurge Crash Protector - New Vegas Edition by ZanGS and Luke Gevaerts
UIO - User Interface Organizer by jazzisparis
Darnified UI by Darn
JIP Companions Command and Control by jazzisparis
The Mod Configuration Menu by Pelinor
The Weapon Mod Menu by Pelinor
Loot Menu for FNV by Gribbleshnibit8
JIP Improved Recipe Menu by jazzisparis
Shiloh DS - Colored Map and Icons by Shiloh
One HUD - oHUD by Gopher
HUD Like Fallout 4 (NV) by AnsaarTGB
Yukichigai Unofficial Patch - YUP by Yukichigai
Yukichigai Gameplay Tweaks by Yukichigai - darthbdaman - Various Authors
Unofficial Patch Plus by PushTheWinButton
Dynamic Third Person Camera by claustromaniac
New Vegas - Enhanced Camera by LogicDragon
Weapon Animation Replacers by joefoxx082
Weapon Animation Replacers FOMOD by Gopher
The Strip Open by MoBurma - original by Schizofriendlia
Goodsprings Reborn by warriorpoetex
Novac Reborn by warriorpoetex
Less Empty Primm - A Primm Town Overhaul by Biohazard
NVInteriors Project by chucksteel Bigcrazewolf [“Combo Edition”]
Lucky 38 Suite Reloaded v4 by Chocbar98 and KospY
Novac Motel - The Couriers Room by Arlekin
Save Cass by Adul
BrotherhoodHouseAlliance by Nick McHazard
New Vegas Uncut 1 - Rotface to Riches by MoBurma
Project Nevada by PN Team [only “CORE” module]
Project Nevada Patches by PN Team [only “Project Nevada - DLC Support” file]
PN - Extra Options by Gribbleshnibit8 [only “CORE” and “All DLC” modules]
PN-PNEO-DLC Patches (for select modules) by MonoAccipiter - Gribbleshnibit8 - etc
JSawyer Ultimate Edition by PushTheWinButton
Immersive Minigames by Gribbleshnibit8 and pintocat
Gun Follows Crosshairs in First Person by Grasscid
Vertical Recoilmod by AzeraSilver
Combat Enhancer by wastedisposal
Enhanced NPC Awareness by xQd [Not compatible with PMT]
Cover Based Stealth Mechanics by Bashar
NMCs_Texture_Pack_For_New_Vegas by NeilMc_NMC
OJO BUENO Texture Pack by Ojo Bueno
Textures Over Time by DonKnotts
MGs Neat Clutter Retextures by Mental Gear
Wasteland Flora Overhaul by vurt
New Vegas Landscape Overhaul Remastered by MonoAccipiter
aMidianBorn NV Book Of Water by CaBaL
Neglected Clutter and Other Things - Retex by Aogara
Misc Item Icons - New Vegas by The 3rd Type and DekoMan91
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47 ENB 2: The Sequel by Hitman47101 [Performance with Weather .esp]
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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyMon Jul 10, 2017 11:15 am

Running your LO through LOOT, is it flagged in any way? Do you see any warnings or messages? (I think i see a few mods that could be incompatible though i'm not sure) have you tried the LOD Generator? Do you only see the bug when outside The Strip (Like, next to The Gun Runners)? or when inside it?

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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyMon Jul 10, 2017 7:36 pm

Large texture overhauls like Poco Bueno, Ojo Bueno, NMC's texture pack or EWI's Pack (if its still on the nexus) effect LOD files because they contain their own. Looking at your load order indicates that Ojo Bueno might be the cause of it. Some other clutter textures probably are not the cause of it. Better Game Performance or Performance of the Gods may delete some lighting in the game but please don't quote me on that. Electro City might effect things because it changes the lighting in the game but its just an assumption though.

So I just gave you a bunch of souses but how the hell do you fix it? Like anyone I hate the lack of answers to a persistent question. You could try the brute force method of just uninstalling each mod that could be the issue and load up your game to see if its fixed. Or Just removing the mod that effects you LOD files. Good luck and tell me if this helps Smile

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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyTue Jul 11, 2017 6:12 am

VorpalDoom wrote:
Running your LO through LOOT, is it flagged in any way? Do you see any warnings or messages? (I think i see a few mods that could be incompatible though i'm not sure) have you tried the LOD Generator? Do you only see the bug when outside The Strip (Like, next to The Gun Runners)? or when inside it?

0 errors according to LOOT, only DLC plugins and WFO contain dirty edits but I assume it is normal.
Everything is compatible, 99% sure.
The bug is visible from all the locations I think.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyTue Jul 11, 2017 6:15 am

stoobygacks wrote:
Large texture overhauls like Poco Bueno, Ojo Bueno, NMC's texture pack or EWI's Pack (if its still on the nexus) effect LOD files because they contain their own. Looking at your load order indicates that Ojo Bueno might be the cause of it. Some other clutter textures probably are not the cause of it. Better Game Performance or Performance of the Gods may delete some lighting in the game but please don't quote me on that. Electro City might effect things because it changes the lighting in the game but its just an assumption though.

So I just gave you a bunch of souses but how the hell do you fix it? Like anyone I hate the lack of answers to a persistent question. You could try the brute force method of just uninstalling each mod that could be the issue and load up your game to see if its fixed. Or Just removing the mod that effects you LOD files. Good luck and tell me if this helps Smile

Thank you for all these suggestions, friend!
I think I am going to make some new tests...
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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyTue Jul 11, 2017 7:17 am

I believe that's just the game being itself. That issue is also seen when using the mod that opens up Freeside. Gopher has a video about it, well only a small portion of it. In the video, Gopher is seen walking towards the Mormon Fort and the water tower's lights on Freeside was still blurred out and as he was getting near it, that's the only time it "popped" into the scenery and then walking away from it returns it to its blurry state.

From what I read, it seems like this is what's also happening to you and my conclusion is that it really is just the game. I saw your modlist too. You have that mod that opens up The Strip and removes the walls. I believe that the reason why the devs put up those walls is to prevent players from seeing that visual bug and offering more stability in the area.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tops' Light Bug   The Tops' Light Bug EmptyTue Jul 11, 2017 5:58 pm

njmanga097 wrote:
I believe that's just the game being itself. That issue is also seen when using the mod that opens up Freeside. Gopher has a video about it, well only a small portion of it. In the video, Gopher is seen walking towards the Mormon Fort and the water tower's lights on Freeside was still blurred out and as he was getting near it, that's the only time it "popped" into the scenery and then walking away from it returns it to its blurry state.

From what I read, it seems like this is what's also happening to you and my conclusion is that it really is just the game. I saw your modlist too. You have that mod that opens up The Strip and removes the walls. I believe that the reason why the devs put up those walls is to prevent players from seeing that visual bug and offering more stability in the area.

You're maybe right. Actually I had the same thought. But I do not like the feeling I can do nothing. Well, I am happy that members share their opinion about this strange bug. Perhaps one of the evident game's limits indeed.

EDIT: Finally a member found a solution concerning the 47 ENB 2 The Sequel. A new .esp and tweaks are provided. Please report to the page topic to find more informations about this bug.
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