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PostSubject: I would like an explanation about animations   I would like an explanation about animations EmptyMon Apr 03, 2017 9:45 pm

Hello, i always was wondering, how does animations and reloading works in fallout new vegas.

Let me explain my question in details.

When you download mods that adds new weapons or even the 1st person animation mod.

Some animations needed to be replace, they are conflicting with each other.
So my first question is, what should i do? how does it works? should i go with the bigger file?
What should i do? Also, how does that work, are there more than 1 animation and reloading inside the kf file?
If so, is it possible to merge it with other animations? (the same file but conflicting because different size)

Second question, would it be possible to have animations working for every single mods? (if i do some changes to some things of course).

Third question, using the 1st person animation mod, i would like to know if it was possible to add the stances you can find from the mod to the other weapon mods.


I would like a detailed tutorial on how to do so if possible, thanks a lot.

I hope you get what i mean, if not, let me know, i will try to go into details.

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PostSubject: Re: I would like an explanation about animations   I would like an explanation about animations EmptyWed Apr 05, 2017 8:47 pm

Well I find it a bit vague what the question exactly is but I will try to help you by describing how I put together my weapon animation setup.

First of all the ones im currently using:
Hitman's first person animations
Hitman's sneak animations
Weapon animations replacer by joe fox
And im including the animation project aswell even though I don't think it does anything with guns.

So I also really recommend using a mod manager.
I'm just using the nexus mod manager even though a friend told me he preferred fomm
Nexus mod manager tells you exactly what you are replacing and what files conflict.

Another thing you should do is look into detail what all the animations mods do.
This will probably give you an image of what the conflicting files do if the mod manager isn't obvious enough.
The usefull thing nexus mod manager also does is tell you what mod the the file belongs to.

Sometimes it is hard to say which files are more important than the other.

My advice would just be to uninstall them all and install them again in an order you think is best.

A usefull thing to look out for is that if you have multiple mods by the same author to install them in the order of when the mods came out.


I have no clue if this comment was usefull whatsoever but I felt I had to comment anyway because just an hour before I was trying to get those four animation mods to work together without any problems and it seemed to have worked so far.

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PostSubject: Re: I would like an explanation about animations   I would like an explanation about animations EmptyWed Apr 05, 2017 10:52 pm

@mikeee1111 Animations work like any other type of file, if two animation files have the same name and are being put(installed) in the same folder, the new one will replace the old one, you cannot merge two animations together, just like you can't merge two image files together, one must replace the other. There are programs you can use (Blender) to try to 'merge' animations, but I have never done something like that so I wouldn't know how to help you.

"would it be possible to have animations working for every single mods?"
I'm not quite sure what you mean here to be honest, do you mean with all weapon mods or with all other animation mods? If it's the latter then in general animation mods should all play relativley nicely together, as long as you are careful with installation and which mods/files you overwrite.

The 1st person animation mod only effects just that, 1st person animations, I don't know if it is possible to edit the 1st person files to be used for 3rd person stances, but again I think you would probably have to edit the files through a 3d modelling program. Hope this helps in some way Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I would like an explanation about animations   I would like an explanation about animations EmptyThu Apr 06, 2017 7:45 am

@quicksilver500 @tuxek

I will try to go into details.

Let's say, you have animation01.kf from mod 1 which adds an AUG.
Then once again, you have animation01.kf but this time from another mod, it adds an SIG 553.
By using the one from the AUG mod, it will all mess up the animations the SIG 553 is using.
If you use the animations from the SIG 553 mod then your animations for the AUG will be messed up.

So what should I do to make them both work together?
That is what I want to know, even if i'd have to go through programs such as blender, it does not bother me, but thing is, do i really need to? If yes, a tutorial would be great.

I already use the FOMM (Fallout New Vegas mod manager).
Are you telling me that the Nexus manager actually tells you what files is needed for what mods? Even if you create yourself a mod, or download a mod that is not on the Nexus at all?
So if let's say, i replace animations from a mod with some other animations from another mod, then it would let me know about it? Correct me if i am wrong, thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: I would like an explanation about animations   I would like an explanation about animations EmptyThu Apr 06, 2017 12:19 pm

Hello, @mikeee1111. Good questions! I've already find my answers for them in Shiny Haxours Youtube Tutorials, check 'em all!

Shiny Video Tutorials:
 

You can also check his thread about animations and stuff, i've find it very helpful.
https://www.gunetwork.org/t7052-fnvshinyhax-s-animation-release-thread

Happy Modding.

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PostSubject: Re: I would like an explanation about animations   I would like an explanation about animations EmptyThu Apr 06, 2017 12:28 pm

The way animations work in New Vegas you cannot assign new animations for individual weapons, only replace animations for a group of weapons. Weapons are split into categories that denote their animation type, such as '2handautomatic', '2handrifle', '1handpistol', etc. And there is a drop down list of animations for each category. They are named 'Reload "X"' where"X" is a letter or word. Each one of these options points the weapon file to an animation in the animations folder. So 'Reload B" under the '2handautomatic' categorie would point to the file '2hareloadb.kf' animation files. To do what you're asking for the scar-h and Aug you would have to rename one of the animations to cover a different animation letter, and then reassign the animation in the weapon entry in the geck. However, this will replace the animation of every wagon that uses that animation, so you have to be careful Smile I hope I was clear enough, if you don't understand something ask me to elaborate Smile
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