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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:50 am

Woo, Power Armor... except I don't want to use it. I never liked it that much and I just feel like it's trying to push me into using it.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:06 am

Sorry to hear you aren't enjoying it. I admit, mods can really change things, but I generally can't play a game if the mods are what make it playable. I really do like the Fallout series. I've been playing FO4 quite a bit and there's still so much discovery. I think they did a really amazing job.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:15 am

thats why I am not touching the game until mods come out :/, and not those texture replacers too real mods.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:28 am

I was going to give another chance, but my useless follower bug is the last straw. I know Bethesda games are buggy at release, but I'm just not in the mood to deal with bad bugs.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:57 am

@Pickpox111 wrote:
Sorry to hear you aren't enjoying it.  I admit, mods can really change things, but I generally can't play a game if the mods are what make it playable.  I really do like the Fallout series.  I've been playing FO4 quite a bit and there's still so much discovery.  I think they did a really amazing job.  

Everyone has different tastes.

Same here, im enjoying this game everybit, there is so much to do, and to not only mention that i am playing as a Male, i will play twice, first time as a male which is what im playing as right now and the second time as a Female, hours upon hours of gameplay.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:30 am

I would probably really love it if I could play it!

But sadly I can not, I have to use a laptop since I travel a lot and I don't think it will ever be able to play F4 (can't really afford a new PC either haha just got this one last year)
Everytime i try to play F4 I just get a "Display driver stopped responding but has recovered" lol


So Best of luck ! I hope you find a way to really enjoy the game!!
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:09 am

my feelings about the game are mixed. i feel its a step forward and a step back at the same time. i was hoping they would take some ideas and mechanics from newvegas but that didn't happen at all. the new mechanics are great in fo4 but adding what newvegas did would have been even better. im liking how powerarmor works and i like how weapon mods work but why is there no ammo crafting or a pump action shotty or different ammo types for a ammo category. i hope obsidian will do a version based off of the fo4 engine or atleast some dlc from them. i guess in summary im spoiled by what newvegas allowed.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:36 am

I was loving Fo4 till it decided it wasnt going to run anymore. I played it the first week and didnt play over a busy weekend. Turned it back on and now it crashes on startup. But what I played I really enjoyed so hopefully I find out wtf is going on with my game.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:26 pm

I really do enjoy it I had to restart once because I was an idiot and thought you had to max the first row of perks to get access to the second level and so forth. I love the weapon and armor modding. They definitely need to work on the fence placing the junk fence which is really the only exterior wall can get close but I find myself placing wire fence to fix the gaps. I miss the repairing and the variety of weapons and ammunition from fallout New Vegas. I really gotta say I love the animation for getting into the power armor but I don't use PA very often. If you are not feeling it i would say wait a while for the tools and mods to come out and then try again.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:12 am

@Ghost_1021 wrote:
I really do enjoy it I had to restart once because I was an idiot and thought you had to max the first row of perks to get access to the second level and so forth.

Same here bro, seems like I wasn't the only one who made that mistake.

Anyway regarding the topic, Fallout 4 was a fun game to play but the story ended way too early and mostly I like to roleplay as James Bond; the game has the essential elements for that like the Tux and the PPK, But there's no place to be suitable for James Bond unlike the Casinos in FNV which I used to hang out a lot in the good old days. Overall wandering around the Commonwealth is fun. But the I feel like the upcoming mods are gonna make the game an immersive experience!

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:25 am

Honestly I do a lot of side quest so I've just gotten about half way through the main story line, I personally enjoy the game a lot. When Mods come out for it at a decent rate and quality I'll enjoy it that much more.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:47 pm

It's good but it's not great. Observed that the game took a lot of mod stuff & integrated it (Project Nevada is the most obvious). Not a bad thing really because it works, but it's nothing fresh. I'm still fuming over why the visible holstering of weapons is gone. May not bug most but I like my weapons displayed on my character when holstered. This game got me interested but not hooked. Hopefully in time, mods will make this game great.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:46 pm

Personally I both love it....and dislike it, if that makes sense. As a stand alone game, I think it's great! The map is a bit small, but there is some unique areas to explore. The power armor is incredible! I love exploring the commonwealth in it. And I've also become addicted to modifying my weapons. All in all it has it's problems, but as a standalone game I love it!

As a Fallout game however I'm very disappointed. They removed alot of stuff and as someone pointed out, it's kinda hard to fight or fire off a gun in third person mode. Most of the time I'm restricted to first person. Also like you said, I'm not a big fan of the companion moral thing. It's like...even if I do the smallest crimes or whatever, my companions dislike it. Now there are some improvements I love, like I do love the new Power Armor system and I love that you can actually build a relationship with your companions.

However there is alot of flaws with the game in my opinion. All in all I would give the game an 8/10. This may sound like a praise and it is, but I still think there's alot that needs to be improved on. Especially the lack of interesting armor and clothing. Hopefully mods will fix that. As for the main story it's....okay. A bit generic in my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:33 pm

I want to say, youre not alone. But i cant put my finger on it what is disappointing me.
For me it don´t fell right. In fallout 3 it was more fascinating to enter the ruined DC.
It felt much bigger than the citys in FO4, with the Metro System , the large battlefield at Washington Monement, the perk system. I cannot discribe the way im feeling it.I´m lost for Words. Maybe if the first overhaul mods come out, i will change my Mind. I wish i enjoy it as much as Veteran alpha. Im jealous about that.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Well times changed and let me just say that

I am really disappointed with Fallout 4, it's not what i was waiting for, of course it was fun at first, but later it just got boring, all of that waiting just for the game to be a flop, let me just say that Fallout has always been my favourite game, i played Fallout 3, i played New Vegas, but this one is just not what i was hoping for, the new gameplay on the other hand is just amazing, the spriting, the grenade hotkey, enemies taking cover and dumping grenades on you just makes the game more harder for you depending what difficulty you play on.

Also did i mention that there is no Hardcore mode? Yes you heard me right there is none, there is only Survival and all it does is it makes enemies stupidly overpowered and only makes more legendary enemies spawn, like for some reason when playing on normal the enemies are tougher to kill but on hard they only need like 2 or 3 shots and they are dead. You are shooting like 500 bullets from an SMG into an enemies head and he only takes a small portion of damage.

Legendary enemies are just stupidly made, the only thing they have is health regen, after you do a decent amount of damage they just regen their health back, and thats it, nothing else, they could of have made them somewhat more interesting but they didn't.

One thing i did test was to see what would happen if i shoot Preston Garvey and you won't belive it, he doesn't die, YES you heard me half of the NPC's are essential, i have no freedom whatsoever, they want me to play the game the way it is meant to be played, until then they decide that i can shoot whoever i want, let me give you an example of something that lacks my freedom, there is a part in the game where a NPC opens a door for me like it is fu***ng Battlefield, and there is more to that, the lack of this player freedom just gets me bored to death.

The Radio Stations, and i am mostly taking about Diamond City Radio Station, the songs are fine some of them are my favourite and i will most likely use them in Fallout New Vegas, but the thing i am mostly annoyed with is the radio host, he is incredibly annoying and i hate him, they went with a very awkward and shy person and people would feel bad for him but i really really hate him, his personality is dumb and just his whole whole life is just sad and that is all about him, like i said before some of the radio songs are good but other are just taken out from Fallout 3 and dumped into Fallout 4, like i think in total there is 9 recycled songs from Fallout 3 and put into 4.

Now the characters, let me just list some of them, Kellog is a bad guy, always was, and he died a bad guy, Piper is just a journalist and just likes to be a b***h and a jerk, Preston Garvey really likes the Minuteman, don't know if you knew that, Paladin Danse likes to share war stories and Nick Valentine is a detective, they are all boring characters, for an Example Kellog is JUST a BAD GUY, he lives a bad guy, he starts of a bad guy and he dies a bad guy.

Now the leveling up system, for me the whole leveling up system is horse s**t, it does nothing differnt from the older games and is less customizable and is boring, all of the perks come in ranks which just increases the effectiveness of them, each time you level up you only get 1 SKILL point, which means that whatever Special skill points you pick at the beginning will not make any difference, some of the perks are just boring and useless such as Riflemen all it does is it gives you better accuracy with Assault Rifes or Locksmith where each rank gives you a better chance at lockpicking, it is all so boring, almost all of the perks are about shooting or killing, the also basicly swaped out the perk system very stupidly, and that is by giving Charisma the best perks and Intelligence the sh***y perks, this is no longer a RPG leveling game system they just made it into a Far Cry leveling system where each time you level up you can only pick one skill point to get better health or do more damage, they removed all of the awsome perks, where is the where is the one where you can explode into a plasma wave when you get below 10 HP, where is the one where you can regen health at sunlight? Half of them are do more damage or regen more health.

Half of the Quests are boring and repetetive, you can have the same Quests given to you by Preston Gravey or Rys, go kill that, go build that, go find that, wtf! I didn't pay £50 for this.

but the thing that hurts me the most is that in 7 years of Development they couldn't at least give each faction an Unique ending sequence? 3 of them share the EXACT same cutscene.... New Vegas had an 18 month dev time and it had 6 main endings with hundreds of ending permutations.... This is just lazy. So whatever you do will not affect your ending, you build a drug empire or you kill everyone you see it won't appear in the ending, the only thing that will appear is who you sided with, the Institute or the Brotherhood Of Steel.

I am also disapointed with is the Story itself, after you find the Institute the game just becomes repetitive, if you are playing for the Bos it is the same missions over and over, go fetch that, build that, fetch this again, build that again, that isn't what i payed £50 for.

Half of the explorable areas were just boring.... It wasn't so fun, like not at all, it was all the same areas, and too many urban areas, i wanted areas like in Fallout New Vegas were there was old building and caves, old army bases and instead we get boring areas

Im really disappointed with Fallout 4 all that waiting just for the game to be a flop, it isn't the worst neither does it suck, but it just isn't what i was expecting. Fallout 4 for me has to be a 4/10, maybe with quest mods this game will be better but i don't think so, Obsidian did a much better job, really disappointed with you Bethesda.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:34 pm

@VeteranAlpha96 Can you play unmodded FO3 and NV without criticising anything? Those games sucked just as much, if not even more in their vanilla versions. Wait for mods I say. But yea, the overhype kinda ruined FO4 for alot of people, but it's the people's fault, not Bethesda's. For 60 euros you get crap like AC Unity, Call of Duties, Mad Max, etc. I say FO4 is worth it. And it's modding potential is a lot higher than FO3 and NV.

Also "too many urban areas"? You, knew FO4 will be set in Boston, I fail to see how you are surprised about there being urban areas. And FO3 was the same anyway.

Anyway, I'm still enjoying FO4 and I have a wearable backpack aswell now. So there's that Smile

EDIT - That review is indeed accurate. But in a time where most games suck and you only get one shining diamond every 10 years or so It's your fault alone for putting your faith in any particular game.
That being said I do hope XCOM2 won't suck, I'm waiting for that game more than I've waited for FO4.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:11 pm

@stfdmn wrote:
@VeteranAlpha96 Can you play unmodded FO3 and NV without criticising anything? Those games sucked just as much, if not even more in their vanilla versions. Wait for mods I say. But yea, the overhype kinda ruined FO4 for alot of people, but it's the people's fault, not Bethesda's. For 60 euros you get crap like AC Unity, Call of Duties, Mad Max, etc. I say FO4 is worth it. And it's modding potential is a lot higher than FO3 and NV.

Also "too many urban areas"? You, knew FO4 will be set in Boston, I fail to see how you are surprised about there being urban areas. And FO3 was the same anyway.

Anyway, I'm still enjoying FO4 and I have a wearable backpack aswell now. So there's that Smile

EDIT - That review is indeed accurate. But in a time where most games suck and you only get one shining diamond every 10 years or so It's your fault alone for putting your faith in any particular game.
That being said I do hope XCOM2 won't suck, I'm waiting for that game more than I've waited for FO4.

Already played unmodded Fallout 3 and New Vegas on my Xbox for the first time and i had a blast with it, more player freedom than Fallout 4 and my choices actually had consequences, Fallout 4 was a disappointment, and yes Fallout 3 was set in a Urban area but it was much more interesting than 4, to be clear Bethesda were lazy the coudn't even give a proper ending or player freedom, FNV had an 18 month dev time and it had 6 main endings with hundreds of ending permutations.... This is just lazy. While Fallout 4 had a 7 year dev time and it had 3 of the same ending for each faction, and nothing effected your choices, to be honest i had more fun with Mad Max or hell even Assassin's Creed: Syndicate, Fallout 4 just got me bored within a week, and a "shining diamond every 10 years or so" and "It's your fault alone for putting your faith in any particular game." So you are saying that i think that game was flop because i was excited to play it? That makes zero sense whatsoever. It isn't my fault it is Bethesda's fault that they coudn't give a good game despite all those years of dev time.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:19 pm

@Julum wrote:
@Tesvixen wrote:
I wasn't that impressed at first (and still have my complaints) but once I met some companions, devoted some time to the upgrade/mod stuff and did some of the side quests... I was hooked.

I would use other companions, but I always play a character with a lack of a moral compass, and I saw that companions other than Dogmeat will disapprove of that and possibly turn against you, so that's out of the question.

If you're still playing the game, you should get Strong. The supermutant in Trinity Plaza. No moral compass with that guy.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:53 am

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Yes, you are correct on most of your points, but Bethesda did not promise anything which they didn't deliver. What you saw in their E3 presentation is all in the game. You just hoped to get more different endings and you hoped for the game to be more interesting and polished. That's like me saying well, I hoped they would have storm troopers in, they didn't, the game sucks. Yea, the game does suck but not for the reasons you mentioned, or MisterCaption mentioned, 'cause your post is kinda copy paste of his review.

All in all, the problems people noticed in the E3 presentation are all in the game, like interface, essential companions, shallow dialogue, etc. You knew what to expect if you watched the E3 presentation.

And let's not talk about Fallout3's ending ok? Remember when you wanted to send Fawkes in the radiation chamber and he promptly refused you, because "it's your destiny"? Yea, FO3's ending was just as bad as FO4's.

FO4 is obviously not a role playing multiple endings game anymore, they went on a different route. So let's not bash it for something it didn't try to be, judge it for what it is. A decent shooter with some dialogue. A Mass Effect (3) clone.

What I'm trying to say is if you want something (and by something I mean a Fallout game) done right let Obsidian do it Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone else just not enjoy FO4?   Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:04 am

The more I play F4, the less interesting and catching it becomes. Unfortunately...

Side quest are not interesting at all. And the main story is no match even for New Vegas, not comparing it to marvellous Witcher 3. In weeks of playing I haven't encountered a dialogue where my choice of answer had really changed anything.

Most armor and weapon designs are more then doubtfull. Equipment and gear are not good enough even for loot hunting.

Building is absolutely "fifth wheel" - neither related quests, nor any impact on the story.

The only thing which makes F4 superior over F-NV is its new engine with great mechanics, little more modern animation and good graphics.

I think if the GECK doesn't come out soon the game will loose its attractiveness even for modders... Mods are the only thing which can prolong the interest for F4.

But it's only my opinion ;-)

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