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PostSubject: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.    Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.  EmptyTue Mar 26, 2019 2:02 am

Hey there everyone, I've recently started to get back into fallout and started a new playthrough of Fallout 4.

The main issue I'm having is severe freezing and stuttering, It seems to be random as I can be inside an interior or walking through the wasteland.

The second issue I'm having is the game crashing when I attack certain enemies.

Any help you can provide is appreciated, I'll post my load order below. I know the fix is probably something really simple but I can't seem to get the game working well again.

Thanks again for any help.

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PostSubject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.    Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.  EmptyTue Mar 26, 2019 6:50 pm

You may need to manually reorganize your load order. I noticed some of the mods Like Diamond city expansion, and Combat zone restored need to be placed at the bottom of your load order. Other than that you may have to many mods installed.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.    Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.  EmptyTue Mar 26, 2019 7:39 pm

@"Lilkrasdog"

Thanks for the reply, I'll move them to the bottom of my load order and see if it helps.

I've removed quite a few mods I didn't need since I posted and fixed the crashing when attacking issue, it's all just kind of strange since I used to play with a large amount of mods and had very few issues. I'm thinking maybe it's a specific mod causing it.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.    Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.  EmptyTue Mar 26, 2019 7:59 pm

All your esm mods should be above your esp's as well. Do you use LOOT or manually sort? I don't use LOOT, but if you're having trouble with a manual load order it might benefit you as a starting point. You can go all the way to 255 plugins, but it is not recommended if you are not familiar with and using FO4Edit. Is FO4Edit something you're familiar with?

Also, I put your load order between spoiler tags for you to save space. It is the recommended way for posting these large lists here
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.    Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order.  EmptyTue Mar 26, 2019 8:23 pm

jacoboriley wrote:
All your esm mods should be above your esp's as well. Do you use LOOT or manually sort? I don't use LOOT, but if you're having trouble with a manual load order it might benefit you as a starting point. You can go all the way to 255 plugins, but it is not recommended if you are not familiar with and using FO4Edit. Is FO4Edit something you're familiar with?

Also, I put your load order between spoiler tags for you to save space. It is the recommended way for posting these large lists here

I have used LOOT in the past and have it installed but it doesn't seem to do anything when I sort plugins, everything stays the same. I've been following guides to sort it so far, also, thanks for putting everything in spoilers.

I've used FO4Edit a couple times so I'm not really familiar with it.

Here's my new/current load-order, everything seems to be running better but the game's still freezing for around 10-20 seconds when I load a saved game, enter a interior, and sometimes just randomly.

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Try moving the Unofficial Patch (it counts as an esm) to just below the Nuka World esm and above Armor Keywords. It almost sound like you're having texture loading issues, but the Unofficial patch belongs higher.
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@"jacoboriley"

Okay, I moved the unofficial patch below Nuka World and I think it helped a little.

The stuttering and freezing has gotten better after removing mods, it's not freezing for as long now. I'm not sure If I'm allowed to post links here but if I'm not please feel free to remove it. I uploaded a YouTube video that shows my game in it's current state.

There's a small hiccup running through sanctuary but there's a specific moment when approaching the soldiers at the entrance to Vault 111 that shows the kind of freeze i'm talking about, I don't know if it helps, but it might.

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I'll give it a look later if I can. In the meantime, try deactivating a mod at a time of the one's you suspect. It is sometimes a process but very educational for modding. What mod manager are you using? I would also encourage you to look up some of the vid's on FO4Edit, such as these -

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlN8weLk86XiGXJI4DaRa1QIq1zhDpD8V

...and yes, you can post links just as I did here. There is also a youtube insert helper when you open up your text box. Look top of the window, second box right. As long as the vid doesn't violate our decency rules you should be fine.
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jacoboriley wrote:
I'll give it a look later if I can. In the meantime, try deactivating a mod at a time of the one's you suspect. It is sometimes a process but very educational for modding. What mod manager are you using? I would also encourage you to look up some of the vid's on FO4Edit, such as these -

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlN8weLk86XiGXJI4DaRa1QIq1zhDpD8V

...and yes, you can post links just as I did here. There is also a youtube insert helper when you open up your text box. Look top of the window, second box right. As long as the vid doesn't violate our decency rules you should be fine.

Thank you for helping me with this, it's very much appreciated.

After testing the mods one-by-one and using FO4Edit I've got the game working great again and fixed my issues.

Thanks again you guys.
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