Come for the Mods, Stay for the Community!
 
HomeCalendarInterviewsFAQMemberlistUsergroupsRegisterLog in
Info Panel
Stay Connected

_
May 2018
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
 123456
78910111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
28293031   
CalendarCalendar

Share | 
 

 What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
dantaefetticus

avatar

Posts : 363
Join date : 2014-10-25
Age : 18
Location : New York

Character sheet
Name: Samson Ramsey
Faction: Independent
Level:

PostSubject: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:56 am

For our first two playthroughs, we usually play the disciple of Jesus Christ archetype or the morally good asshole. We usually do the morally right thing and are seen as the beacon of hope. We're the goody two shoes! But after those few playthroughs, we decide to play a character that is just evil, the scum of the Earth. In this case for Fallout, we get the chance to do some of the evilest, most heartless shit in gaming. I am talking about blowing up settlements full of innocent people, selling people to be enslaved, doing legitimate acts of terrorism, and even good ol' cannibalism!

What I'm asking my fellow GUNers is what makes an evil playthrough very enjoyable for you? Is it the roleplaying? Is it the wide array of choices you are given? Is it just that you're a bit coo-coo in the head? Let's talk. BigGrin

EDIT: Also, if you want, you can bring up an evil or morally bad character that you played and your experience with that character.

_________________
Flickr | STEAM | NEXUS <--- Where you can connect with me


Last edited by dantaefetticus on Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:45 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Soju

avatar

Posts : 2265
Join date : 2014-10-19
Location : USA

Character sheet
Name: ----------------------
Faction: ---------------------
Level: ----------------------

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:28 am

I can't for the life of me play as an evil character lol
I mean I'd do morally evil stuff only if it feels satisfactory and deserving Silly

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
XIIISilviea

avatar

Posts : 322
Join date : 2017-09-16
Age : 23
Location : Chile/Romania

Character sheet
Name: Eme
Faction: Dahmerize Me
Level: gethelp.jpg

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:31 am

I tend to play as an evil character because i think most of the time is more fun, but sometimes is very hard for me to to be 100% evil! Like in the Fallout games for example, sometimes it's hard for me to choose the mean conversation option because it makes me feel bad, but then after 2 minutes i have no problem cutting that same person in pieces and stealing all of his/her stuff. I'm just weird like that.

_________________

It seems that Lara forgot to put on her tampon before going for a swim...

Spoiler:
 
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Acekiler

avatar

Posts : 435
Join date : 2014-03-05
Location : Unknown

Character sheet
Name: Acekiler 45
Faction: Tsarnov's Legion
Level: 69

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:01 am

I only play an evil character because its the only way to see the best the game has to offer in terms of challenge and difficulty, I enjoyed slaughtering the ncr soldiers with my over powered sword I made. I enjoyed blowing the brotherhood of steel and the enclave because fuck them both to fuck in fallout 3 and in fallout 4 if there were an option I would destroy both the brotherhood again institute and the annoying neighborhood watchmen.

_________________
"It looks like you've stumbled into the wrong closet lizard fuck, now you have two choices eat the leg or be consumed by the void like these fools were"
Back to top Go down
View user profile
RangerGUN

avatar

Posts : 296
Join date : 2017-02-15
Age : 18
Location : United Kingdom

Character sheet
Name: Connor
Faction: Yes Man
Level: 50

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:58 pm

A perfect and important evil play through for me is the choices I get to make. Sure, murdering innocent people is fun and all, but doing a quest and making evil decisions is the best because there's a lot more harm you can cause than simply killing people. Framing Heck Gunderson for murdering his son during Beyond the Beef, blowing the Rail Line at Camp Mccarran, letting Rex die of his condition, selling Arcade into slavery, ripping a teddy bear in half in front of a little girl, all sorts of wicked things. But I'd rather do the good things in New Vegas than the cause harm.
Back to top Go down
View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5M7SmqSLkPA7pufjgV00Vw?view_as
Xrad

avatar

Posts : 190
Join date : 2017-02-19
Age : 17
Location : algeria

Character sheet
Name: osaldo
Faction: A.L.N
Level: 17

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:09 pm

Legion playthrough alied to powder gangers against goodsprings and then kill them blow up vault 11 kill the ncr cannibal things emmm....also kill ceasar after that and mister house too independent is the best for evil things kill ulysse and big mountain only mobious cause he is the good one and we hate good peapol etc... Moahaha

Edit:also lock down elijah kill all the companions in dead money kill josuah let the legion kill the refugees and choose to let boon be depresed and also @rangergun the bad playthrough is when u let everybody down so when the legion collaps good that's entended

_________________
Spoiler:
 



Last edited by Osaldo on Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:52 pm; edited 3 times in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile
RangerGUN

avatar

Posts : 296
Join date : 2017-02-15
Age : 18
Location : United Kingdom

Character sheet
Name: Connor
Faction: Yes Man
Level: 50

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:13 pm

@Osaldo But wouldn't letting Caesar die be good thing? Even siding with the Legion, I'd imagine letting him die be good thing since Ulysses said that if Caesar died, the Legion would fall apart because they follow him, not his ideals. Saving him would allow the Legion to continue much longer until its inevitable collapse.
Back to top Go down
View user profile https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5M7SmqSLkPA7pufjgV00Vw?view_as
Judge Red

avatar

Posts : 864
Join date : 2014-03-12
Age : 25
Location : Ireland

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:17 pm

In my opinion, evil walkthroughs are fun because you can throw all caution to the wind, and be like. SCREW THESE GUYS I AM OUT FOR ME. 
It allows you to go the road less travelled with a majority of players, who will always try and get the good endings for certain groups. With an evil play through you dont care and only go for the decision that best benefits you. You want more money, go and take it. You cant care less about this kids mother being killed, kick him in his stupid face. Whoops, looks like someone in MEGATON looked at you wrong. Better blow up his entire town and leave no survivors.
Dont get me wrong, Its fun being the good guy, but its so much more fun to go around and not give a shit about anyones problem but your own. If I may put it in song? :
Song:
 
Back to top Go down
View user profile
njmanga097

avatar

Posts : 719
Join date : 2016-04-24
Age : 21
Location : South East Asia

Character sheet
Name: Captain Wick
Faction: Wildfire
Level: ∞

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:36 pm

One that doesn't judge me for doing something bad :/ Its the main reason why I rarely go for an evil playthrough. The Karma System keeps reminding me that I lost a karma or some shit. I wish they just let the karma points be hidden within the pipboy.
Back to top Go down
View user profile https://www.instagram.com/pancakeking_/
Hoppyhead

avatar

Posts : 939
Join date : 2014-02-25
Age : 38
Location : Behind You...

Character sheet
Name: Character
Faction:
Level:

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:42 pm

I am actually in the middle of a evil play through right now. But I'll say it is really hard for me to play a evil character. It's not natural for me. I've played through so many good guys that I wanted to attempt a evil one. I am playing TTW and I helped Precedent Eden poison the water, I turned on the brotherhood and destroyed the citadel, blew up megaton. Worked with the powder gangers and helped them take over goodsprings. I'm even being nice to the fiends. Can't say it's been fun, but has been interesting. To much crime and destruction to turn back now LOL but my first instinct is to kill fiends, raiders, and gangers.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
robb-bobby

avatar

Posts : 99
Join date : 2016-07-06
Age : 20
Location : O'Fallon, IL

Character sheet
Name: SecretAgentBob
Faction: NCR
Level: 16

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:56 pm

What makes an evil play through so enjoyable for me is the fact that I can feel like I can do whatever I want and not care what will happen oh you have a unique gun? sorry youre not an essential npc it's mine now lol.

_________________
What do you mean another settlement needs my help?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Garska

avatar

Posts : 422
Join date : 2017-06-16
Age : 18
Location : France, or Azeroth

Character sheet
Name: Vaubeil
Faction: New California Republic
Level: Who care ?

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:27 pm

Well, I usually play neutral-good character, but when I do evil things, it's only for two reasons : money and revenge.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dantaefetticus

avatar

Posts : 363
Join date : 2014-10-25
Age : 18
Location : New York

Character sheet
Name: Samson Ramsey
Faction: Independent
Level:

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:41 pm

I think when it comes to Developing RPGs, there is one key thing you have to keep in mind when making sure that a playthrough is enjoyable for the player, specifically, an evil playthrough.

For the developers, what they have to keep in mind is that to make any type of playthrough enjoyable, they have to give the player dynamic choices/options and make it fun. As a developer, you’re gonna have to make sure that the choices you give the player are impactful, whether it is Big or small. In this case for evil characters, the player would want to make a choice that would reflect on their character’s morality. Maybe near the end of a quest where you have to help one of two factions, you have three choices that would effect the ending of the quest. The first choice benefits the first faction, the second choice benefits the second faction, and the third choice benefits you, only you. The third choice would give the maximum(and probably best) reward for that quest, but it would result in screwing over those two factions, and for what gain? Personal gain. Now this seems pretty bare bones, but for RPGs like Fallout where multiple dynamic choices are important, the developer has to keep this in mind. You have to create dynamic choices that would work for different player characters.

So if I want to play an evil character, I better have choices that reflect on my oh so beautiful personality. Do I want to be an manipulative and cunning evil genius? Give me choices that would reflect that. Do I want to be a destructive, brutish warlord that takes what (s)he wants and doesn’t really care for other people? Give me choices that reflect that. This, I believe is the key thing to making an evil(or any type, for that matter) playthrough enjoyable. You are given choices that reflect your character’s personality.

_________________
Flickr | STEAM | NEXUS <--- Where you can connect with me
Back to top Go down
View user profile
commissar197

avatar

Posts : 206
Join date : 2015-04-24
Age : 20
Location : Texas

Character sheet
Name: Mikalov Ybma
Faction: Minuteman Empire
Level: 19

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:53 pm

I'm a simple guy, as long as I get to decapitate or blast a courier or annoying npc in the head I'm happy, though I tend to do that in every kind of playthrough. Guess I usually play grey.

_________________
By Star~
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Corvo

avatar

Posts : 1117
Join date : 2016-12-16
Location : Dreamscape

Character sheet
Name: Corvo
Faction:
Level: Colonial

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:31 am

Personally, I like to be as evil as possible until I reach the end of the story, then start following a redemptive path, or alternatively, be a hero of the people and turn heel. It adds a great form of depth and development to my characters and is just much more immersive to not follow a specific archetype. When my characters do turn heel, I have them do something that isn't exactly good but morally grey, like the Tenpenny Tower quest or Institute quests.  I justify it by traumatising my character into adopting quite nihilistic views of the wasteland, developing them from a naive Vault Dweller/Wastelander into a complete prick.

However, playing a completely evil or good character is just boring because there's no diversity in choices and your character gets extremely predictable. Being completely evil is fun, but hard to roleplay, at least for me. There's no deep philosophical or ethical reason why your character is such a dick, and on the other hand, being a completely good character is boring because you're every NPC in the game's lapdog.

The stuff I find the most fun about being evil is the fact that you're this unstoppable entity that crushes any and all in it's wake. Some Nazeem looking guy in Whiterun insults you? Oh, that's fine, just pull out my Wabbajack and turn him into a block of cheese. Some Colin Moriarty tells you he won't give you information on your Father, well just let me put my fusion pulse charge on that nuclear bomb over there and turn Megaton into a fireworks display. That'll teach him!

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
stoobygacks

avatar

Posts : 407
Join date : 2015-05-14
Age : 97
Location : I'm not that old, I wish I was.

Character sheet
Name: Pvt. Cooper
Faction: New California Republic
Level: 4

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:56 am

What really makes it good is going through settlements like little lamplight with a sledge hammer, bloody mess and a child killer mod.

_________________
swiggitty swooty I'm coming for that booty
                                               -George Washington
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Evmeister

avatar

Posts : 913
Join date : 2014-03-18
Age : 30
Location : Seattle, WA

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:37 am

I have to agree with Corvo that playing Morally great vs playing straight Good or Evil is probably the most satisfying. It can become more organic. I've never played Evil. The games aren't really set up to provide the consequences and weight you should feel after making evil choices or doing evil things. I've rampaged through Megaton, Tenpenny Tower, Diamond City, Goodsprings many times; but it's not satisfying. Now if you murdered everyone in Goodsprings and the rest of game reacted to you because of it, such as dialogue, hostile npcs, bounty hunters, etc. Yes it would be satisfying because now there would be weight behind my actions. Traders won't trade with me, or charge higher prices....I could go on with ideas.

Fact is, though dynamically Fallout New Vegas had the better offering of consequences compared to Fallout 3 and Fallout 4, FNV itself still doesn't meet the bar required to make a evil playthrough truly satisfying.

_________________

Banner from Star's Workshop
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sirdanest

avatar

Posts : 324
Join date : 2017-11-23
Location : Hiding from wolves, unable to specify

Character sheet
Name: Character
Faction:
Level:

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:32 pm

I really wish that we'd been able to see a viable Legion settlement, like maybe Flagstaff-- I seem to recall that being mentioned as their capital. As it stands, they just seem to burn down everything. My evil courier playthroughs were still practical-minded, I've never done a "kill everything for the hell of it," and I still wanted a wasteland worth living in. For such a dangerous, violent, selfish courier, ruling Vegas simply looked better. Now if we'd actually seen what the legion was capable of, a harsh but ordered town, safe for those who did as they were told, then maybe it would have felt more practical to be evil. But... we had Nipton. After all these years, I've still never done a legion game straight through.
I'd also have liked to see what the NCR was capable of -- their best cities are probably worth looking at and comparing to Vegas, but that's another topic for another day.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Posterize4VC

avatar

Posts : 182
Join date : 2017-12-08
Age : 19
Location : U.S.

Character sheet
Name: Chef Vortivask
Faction: N/A
Level: 999

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:23 am

I always play as a morally sound character in my games, so having an evil playthrough gives things a breath of fresh air. Although I will say that playing an evil character is much more satisfying in Fallout 3 than in New Vegas, in my opinion.

_________________
Cursed be the ground, for our sake. Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth, for us, for out of the ground we were taken for the dust that we are... and to the dust we shall return.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
c4in

avatar

Posts : 252
Join date : 2015-08-21

Character sheet
Name: Curse
Faction: Self
Level: 50

PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:24 pm

I always play games and make decisions as I would do in real life, which is a rational and moral character, aka Mr. Good guy most of the time.

Occasionally playing with the evil character brings the much needed variety to gameplay. It's fun sometimes just to be a real dickhead. It's more like roleplaying a villain of the story, who wins of course. Life isn't fair all the times, that sould be a theme for games and movies more often. I'm kind of tired of "hapily ever after" endings so I make my own in games if I'm allowed to do that.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?   

Back to top Go down
 

What Makes An Evil Playthrough Very Enjoyable For You?

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Gaming Underground Network :: Fallout :: Discussion-