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 Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?

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Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?
LEGION
5%
 5% [ 4 ]
NCR
54%
 54% [ 44 ]
ROBERT HOUSE
16%
 16% [ 13 ]
YES MAN
25%
 25% [ 21 ]
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:59 pm

You know after reading all of this...

I really want to see someone play and upload a Legion playthrough. I never played for the Legion and the furthest I got was probably two quests into the Legion quest line. I want to see an evil courier...

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:09 pm

@DVAted I always felt as though House was simply a man with a dream of a future without war, tyranny, and injustice, but in order to achieve this, he must be the warlord that strikes fear into the hearts of his people, killing thousands of others in order to meet his final plan of domination over New Vegas, so he can bring about his own Pax Romana, if you will. Maybe now, in the contested lands of New Vegas, where all of us have different opinions on who should be leading it, whether it be NCR, Legion, House, or the Courier, proves that much more those 4 famous words spoken so iconically by Ron Perlman at the beginning and end of every fallout game:

       "War... War never changes"

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:17 pm

First time i went with House, now i´m with the ncr and maybe next time yes man, the legion only gets my bullets, plasma, laser.....

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:37 pm

Torki I can't tell you how perfect that is. I was going to go House this playthrough anyway, but that is so awesome now I can't wait to deal with Mr. House.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:35 am

Definitely have to say NCR sure they're not perfect but I see it as better choice then going to the other factions.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:35 pm

DVAted just totally changed my opinion on house with that post. +1 from me for that. That was a well thought out post.

I think my current play through I will work with house and see what he has to offer.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:16 pm

I always wished you could have joined up with the Brotherhood, and made them a major, and take control of the Mojave back from the NCR, but since you can't, I guess I just go with Yes Man or the NCR.
I'm not really into beating New Vegas, I'm more into just playing it and roaming around.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:19 pm

Only beat the game once, and went with NCR. working on 2nd time now, havent decided who is going to win yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:22 pm

Actually, the first time I saw the Legion in Nipton, I just killed every single one of them.
That introduction basically made me despise the Legion, and killed any chance of me working with them.
And don't tell me it isn't satisfying to go into the Fort with Boone and slaughter every single Legion foot soldier.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:03 pm

My choice is NCR. For me it is the only way to bring order to Mojave. Never played for another faction. No 
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:33 pm

I bet FalloutAddict never expected this forum to involve such in-depth debates.  Laugh Out Loud 

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:49 pm

Thanks for all the +1 reps guys, glad you understood what I said.
Also, I see Mr. House went up 3 more votes in the poll since my speech Very Happy
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also, more on NCR that I thought was relevant to this discussion, the last two panels spoken by
Caesar:
 

The 15 votes NCR got here just went into the Baron's pockets, while civilians from California and Nevada are still getting ripped apart by raiders & fiends or worse: starving to death.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:12 pm

I only beat the game once and was with the NCR, but after read the post of DVAted i will follow House route. +1 from me DVAted

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:20 pm

Well, here's some of my arguments. Though deciding I may be more merciful towards House now that DVAted has spoken about it. Least in my honest opinion, House could qualify for city mayor or state governor while I'm out there repairing a broken nation, lol

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:33 pm

I have no interest in the NCR and no love for the Legion and usually go for independant.

Although after reading DVAteds long winded explanation on House I do agree, but still find some faults with him.

House says he cares but I don't see him as a man who wants to help people I see him as a thing who wants to recreate the old world with him at the helm.

He talks about what he is going to do and can do but the fact remains that in order to do this he needs people, he needs numbers, and all he has are gamblers and machines so that is what I see him as is a machine.

Basically when he said kill the brotherhood I decided it was time to end our business venture. Left him alive though, still some stuff in that brain I can use.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:25 am

I normally beat it with Yes Man. Independent is the way to go. The NCR is a good choice as well, but they do not protect the citizens that well, and they push they Followers Of The Apocalypse out of their fort. So all in all, I always choose to go with Yes Man. I wish there was an option to go with the BoS.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:50 am

@DVAted: Man, it's really great reading all you have to say about Mr. House, as I always liked him too. I sided with him the first time I played the game and never went back. I also always kept the Think Tank and Mobius alive in Old World Blues. I figure that The Courier(Good Karma) + House + Think Tank and Mobius will help bring about the advancement of technology and humanity. And I really just love science.  cheers 

I wanted to side with the NCR but couldn't as even though I had no ill will towards the soldiers and civilians of the NCR, I didn't like the people on top like Kimball, Oliver and Moore. Then I found out how they are all just run by the Brahmin Barons disappointed me more; like what happened to Tandi's NCR? I did help Hanlon in Return to Sender, as I agreed with him, and I think NCR needs more people like him if the NCR is to one day be set on a better path and not be the corrupt body it is now.


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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:58 am

As I have stated in other forums I am incredibly immersion-oriented. I like to think of complex back stories as well as futures for my characters after they battle through the damn.

I've completed the game as a member of every faction except the NCR, and by far my favorite is Yes Man. Yes man essentially gives you your own faction. While this doesn't constitute any changes in the game, it simply gives me free space to imagine the society which i build, using the alliances I've created.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:11 pm

I generally always side with House, for the same reasons DVAted raised. Plus, in every path but his own, you either have to kill him, or doom him to a slow and horrible death... after he saved your life. That just leaves a foul taste in my mouth. Et tu, Brute?

@Lilkrasdog wrote:

House says he cares but I don't see him as a man who wants to help people I see him as a thing who wants to recreate the old world with him at the helm.

He talks about what he is going to do and can do but the fact remains that in order to do this he needs people, he needs numbers, and all he has are gamblers and machines so that is what I see him as is a machine.

Basically when he said kill the brotherhood I decided it was time to end our business venture. Left him alive though, still some stuff in that brain I can use.

Which is where the Courier comes in. The ending slides make clear mention of your influence, depending on how your karma is. A 'good' Courier tempers House's methods with compassion. Your character, as his protege, is really the face of his operation. A House victory is not him making decisions in a bubble. Your PC is his right hand.

You gain allies and strengthen his plan, by helping the Followers, Bright Brotherhood, Boomers, and so forth. It's even possible to get a good ending for the Kings, as long as they don't side with the NCR. By securing and stabilizing the settlements, you give the Mojave a massive crop of potential future scientists, engineers, and teachers. The human resources needed to secure humanities future. I also don't believe the more intellectually minded of the NCR citizens would be able to resist having a look when House started unveiling his plans. Remember, if you do everything right, as House asks, the NCR isn't dead or gone... it's a potential ally, stronger than it was, and source of many things. A resource. You also have Big MT, and the location of the Sierra, both with a great deal of value for such endeavors.

Also, have you actually taken a step back and looked at the Brotherhood in New Vegas? This is not the Brotherhood we knew in Fallout 1 who aided in the destruction of the Super Mutant army. Nor is it Lyons Brotherhood. This is a chapter that exiles its own for thinking of a future beyond their dogma. Who will look the other way while a group of Paladins threaten and murder one of their own, including a half dozen civilians and doctors. Who will, if you allow it, basically become tech-stealing raiders in some ending slides. And this is forgiving them their collaring the Courier if you find them prior to meeting Vee, and their desire to murder a Ranger hunting the bad guys.

They also pose a particular danger to both House, and the future he offers. Can anyone honestly say they believe that, Legion and NCR gone, the Mojave Brotherhood would be content to let House sit upon Helios, the Dam, and an entire army of advanced robots? They would be gunning for him, left to gather themselves and regroup in relative safety due to the NCRs absence. And out of all the factions, the group that wears power armor immune to the majority of the securitrons weaponry, has ready and plentiful access to laser/plasma weapons, pulse weapons, scoped gauss weapons, is probably just about the only one that could pose a genuine threat to him. What do the Brotherhood covet? And what is House sat on?

Really, getting rid of the Mojave chapter of the Brotherhood is just common sense for House, and the Courier, in my opinion. It spares innocent travelers years of future problems, at the very least.
 
Nor are supporting the NCR and supporting House necessarily different things. The NCR is over-extended, low on cash, and so forth. House winning offers them the majority of the power from a more efficiently run dam, and in the long run will strengthen the NCR, and allow them to turn their attention to their already faltering lands. They are expanding too fast and will implode eventually. The only people who suffer from this is the war mongering general and the president, which is why House asks you to keep them alive.

Really, there are very few downsides to a House victory. It's simply that people either allow their perceptions to be colored, and don't look beyond what is shown of the surface.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you beat Fallout new vegas with?   Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:57 am

For my first playthrough I sided with the NCR just because that veteran ranger armor on the boxart looked badass and I wanted it. I also did a Caesar's Legion playthrough just to see what it was like, my current playthrough is with House, he's the best choice in my opinion for the same reasons that others have already said. He sees the bigger picture, he's not out for his own interests he just wants to rebuild.
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