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Post by Ansari on Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:14 am

Bloated Save games this makes the game take much more time to load and requires space, Is there any workaround?
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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by AdayDr1en on Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:56 pm

You sure that's causing increased load times for you ? You might just been running with a lot of higher-res texture packs. I've never had my load times increased due to bloated saves.

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Post by Brigand231 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:56 pm

Sometimes just reducing your load order can have a huge impact on load times.

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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by Ansari on Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:28 am

@AdayDr1en wrote:You sure that's causing increased load times for you ? You might just been running with a lot of higher-res texture packs. I've never had my load times increased due to bloated saves.
Well I'm not sure but I Think it's the bloated save, Because when I Start a new game the loading times are decreased.

@Brigand: here is my load order
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[X] FalloutNV.esm
[X] DeadMoney.esm
[X] HonestHearts.esm
[X] OldWorldBlues.esm
[X] ClassicPack.esm
[X] MercenaryPack.esm
[X] TribalPack.esm
[X] CaravanPack.esm
[X] Caliber.esm
[X] CrimOffice.esm
[X] SelectFire.esm
[X] DragsVGUArmorBase.esm
[X] PhoenixPoint.esp
[X] ForgeBeyond.esm
[X] Readius_NV.esp
[X] AK47.esp
[X] AKS74u.esp
[X] AN94.esp
[X] VSS_Vintorez.esp
[X] AEK971.esp
[X] AK74.esp
[X] Gyrojet.esp
[X] PPSh41.esp
[X] HKUSP.esp
[X] 9A91.esp
[X] 1 Camon WolfJaw & WolfChief V3.esp
[X] 1911.esp
[X] ASG.esp
[X] StenMkII.esp
[X] ASVAL.esp
[X] Fallout 1 and 2 ambient music v0.2.esp
[X] TFH Better Authority Glasses.esp
[X] L96.esp
[X] B92FS.esp
[X] CoD_MW2.esp
[X] G3SG1.esp
[X] AA-12 Weapon Mod (FNV).esp
[X] TFH Rugged Race.esp
[X] Stg44.esp
[X] 1 Bren Gun.esp
[X] BM4A1.esp
[X] Millenia_Tokarev.esp
[X] CAWS.esp
[X] M14.esp
[X] SVT40.esp
[X] Uzi.esp
[X] Mateba.esp
[X] RagingBull.esp
[X] CShotgun.esp
[X] SW38S.esp
[X] FBSykes.esp
[X] RSASS.esp
[X] AS50.esp
[X] PancorJH.esp
[X] LRPWatertowers.esp
[X] MauserC96.esp
[X] KABAR.esp
[X] C1849.esp
[X] SKS.esp
[X] CasinoHeistPack.esp
[X] ChristieOutfitsforT3.esp
[X] Saiga12.esp
[X] TheLozza's_Gasmasks.esp
[X] JillBSAA.esp
[X] NVWillow.esp
[X] libbys.esp
[X] NRN.esp
[X] NV Desert Eagle.esp
[X] Exciters MP5 Pack.esp
[X] Barrett 98B.esp
[X] MW3 Mod.esp
[X] MP412REX.esp
[X] Nights are Darker 25%.esp
[X] CM4A1.esp
[X] Vz61.esp
[X] 1CazyTestEsp.esp
[X] jocutiepie.esp
[X] Makarov.esp
[X] DragbodyVGUPackFullPlusFaceOffNV.esp
[X] nu_women_of_the_wasteland.esp
[X] TOZ34.esp
[X] AUGA1.esp
[X] UrgeWasterScarf.esp
[X] GSh18.esp
[X] KS23.12Ga.esp

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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by AdayDr1en on Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:26 am

@Ansari wrote:
@AdayDr1en wrote:You sure that's causing increased load times for you ? You might just been running with a lot of higher-res texture packs. I've never had my load times increased due to bloated saves.
Well I'm not sure but I Think it's the bloated save, Because when I Start a new game the loading times are decreased.

@Brigand: here is my load order
Spoiler:
[X] FalloutNV.esm
[X] DeadMoney.esm
[X] HonestHearts.esm
[X] OldWorldBlues.esm
[X] ClassicPack.esm
[X] MercenaryPack.esm
[X] TribalPack.esm
[X] CaravanPack.esm
[X] Caliber.esm
[X] CrimOffice.esm
[X] SelectFire.esm
[X] DragsVGUArmorBase.esm
[X] PhoenixPoint.esp
[X] ForgeBeyond.esm
[X] Readius_NV.esp
[X] AK47.esp
[X] AKS74u.esp
[X] AN94.esp
[X] VSS_Vintorez.esp
[X] AEK971.esp
[X] AK74.esp
[X] Gyrojet.esp
[X] PPSh41.esp
[X] HKUSP.esp
[X] 9A91.esp
[X] 1 Camon WolfJaw & WolfChief V3.esp
[X] 1911.esp
[X] ASG.esp
[X] StenMkII.esp
[X] ASVAL.esp
[X] Fallout 1 and 2 ambient music v0.2.esp
[X] TFH Better Authority Glasses.esp
[X] L96.esp
[X] B92FS.esp
[X] CoD_MW2.esp
[X] G3SG1.esp
[X] AA-12 Weapon Mod (FNV).esp
[X] TFH Rugged Race.esp
[X] Stg44.esp
[X] 1 Bren Gun.esp
[X] BM4A1.esp
[X] Millenia_Tokarev.esp
[X] CAWS.esp
[X] M14.esp
[X] SVT40.esp
[X] Uzi.esp
[X] Mateba.esp
[X] RagingBull.esp
[X] CShotgun.esp
[X] SW38S.esp
[X] FBSykes.esp
[X] RSASS.esp
[X] AS50.esp
[X] PancorJH.esp
[X] LRPWatertowers.esp
[X] MauserC96.esp
[X] KABAR.esp
[X] C1849.esp
[X] SKS.esp
[X] CasinoHeistPack.esp
[X] ChristieOutfitsforT3.esp
[X] Saiga12.esp
[X] TheLozza's_Gasmasks.esp
[X] JillBSAA.esp
[X] NVWillow.esp
[X] libbys.esp
[X] NRN.esp
[X] NV Desert Eagle.esp
[X] Exciters MP5 Pack.esp
[X] Barrett 98B.esp
[X] MW3 Mod.esp
[X] MP412REX.esp
[X] Nights are Darker 25%.esp
[X] CM4A1.esp
[X] Vz61.esp
[X] 1CazyTestEsp.esp
[X] jocutiepie.esp
[X] Makarov.esp
[X] DragbodyVGUPackFullPlusFaceOffNV.esp
[X] nu_women_of_the_wasteland.esp
[X] TOZ34.esp
[X] AUGA1.esp
[X] UrgeWasterScarf.esp
[X] GSh18.esp
[X] KS23.12Ga.esp

A lot of plugins there, man. You've got over 70. You might want to try running with as little as 55 or 60 or 70. I have about 56. And those weapon mods.. There are a lot of them. Most of them are by Millenia, as I can tell, but I recommend you download his merged pack that contains most of his releases. You could also try merging weapon mods. You could do this by recreating GECK entries from various weapon-mod plugins in one, wholly-own plugin. It's work, but it's worth it for performance. I would recommend the same for armor mods. For both, you'll have a smaller load order. Something that's always nice.
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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by dazzerfong on Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:57 am

It's not so much the number of mods you're running, it's what's inside the mod. People who give mindless numbers of 'try 50 mods' or '100 is too many' without taking into consideration what mods are what are usually rambling their own experiences.

From your list order, I count 48 weapon mods, which don't do much besides add new weapons. These more or less have zero impact on your saves, unless there's a bad script which doesn't terminate in there.

From the look of things, in your case, the loading doesn't seem to be save bloating: it's more that there's a lot of stuff that needs to be loaded. To make sure that it actually IS save bloating, move the meshes and textures folder, as long as any non-essential mods away, and try reloading.

@ Everyone else:

Rather than say 'you have a lot of mods', take into consideration what mods he's running. I don't know about you, but it's very obvious that 20 weapon mods would have less of an impact than, say FOWE.


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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by Brigand231 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:26 am

@Ansari wrote:@Brigand: here is my load order

First, you have no idea how much it tickles me to see CrimOffice in you load order. Thank you for that.

Second, yeah, there's nothing really "heavy" in there though probably 90% of your load order could be merged into one mod if you don't mind combining all the leveled list and perk scripts.

There is or was a mod somewhere that called itself a save game cleaner. I have no idea how reliable or effective it is.
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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by Ansari on Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:10 am

@Brigand: It's me Homyans from Nexusmods man, I Also posted some screenshots to your Crimson Office mod I just have a different username here, Anyway let's get to the topic I Used something called REFR Deleter which was supposed to reduce save size but I Didn't really see any difference.

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Post by Brigand231 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:59 am

Yeah, I caught your sig, it's good to see you around again! The mod I was thinking of is here. If you do try it, please let me know how it goes.

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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by Ansari on Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:35 pm

Yeah I This was the program I tried, It's called New Vegas Save Cleaner but the .exe is named New Vegas REFR Deleter, I Already tried this program No difference.

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Post by Brigand231 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:46 pm

That's all I've got to offer aside from suggesting a new game or temporarily disable the bulk of your mods, make a clean save, and add them back in; but again, as the majority of your load order is simple weapon and armor mods I'm not sure if that would even be worth the effort ...unless it's the volume of leveled list scripts that's doing it. I admit I don't know too much about how much drag those might be causing and I hate to "pick" on them, it's just the only thing I can think of that I potentially see a lot of.

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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by Ansari on Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:14 am

Well thanks.  Very Happy 

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Re: Bloated Save Games

Post by Visious on Tue May 13, 2014 7:09 am

Untill the save game is loading, its not broken =)

And the reason of a long load time on older saves is simple - ALL changes you made in a game world SAVED in a savegame. So it takes time for game to process that data and load it. Its that simple.

My suggestion is - check your home\house\faction mods. Huge texture actually dont change much, since its for the graphics card and memory to load them, actuall savegame space is the same - 1 line.

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