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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:22 am

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So what you're saying is that Obsidian couldn't bring back the CRPG mechanics from the old games back in 2010 because they weren't Black Isle?
Not at all. I specifically said that I thought Obsidian's New Vegas was the last true CRPG Fallout title. I don't know where you're getting this. I didn't even say anything remotely close to this.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself. Back in 2009, do you really think everybody knew FNV was going to be a good RPG, before it released? If Rockstar ever do make a Fallout game, and everybody instantly thinks it's going to be another Call Of Duty Fallout game before it actually gets released, does that make it true? I know a lot of people would have assumed that Obsidian would make another shitty Bethesda Fallout game after Fallout 3, but then they came out with a better RPG, invalidating the prejudgement that Obsidian would make another shitty Bethesda Fallout game.

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I think you're just being paranoid. I said nothing about CRPG mechanics, and making an entire rant shitpost about Fallout 4 is not going to help you prove Rockstar isn't a good game studio.
What? The discussion wasn't about Rockstar being a good game studio or not(which I personally think they are), it was about how a Fallout developed by Rockstar could potentially turn out.

My bad, I meant to say "good studio for Fallout". This is Fallout discussion after all. What you said was:

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I wouldn't mind it if they kept all the oldschool CRPG mechanics from 1/2/NV. But that would NEVER happen.

To which I was rebutting. "NEVER" would mean that Rockstar can't bring back the oldschool CRPG mechanics, which is a prejudgement. Rockstar can make a good RPG if they wanted to. Just because they haven't made a good RPG yet, which they never have made any RPG for that matter of fact, doesn't mean they can't.

So according to you, "A" being terrible must mean "B" is terrible too? So "Fallout 4" being a mediocre RPG must mean Rockstar's Fallout game is medicore too?

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And for the record, having an unpopular opinion isn't "shitposting".

I called your post shitposting because you attacked Fallout 4 when I was talking about a new title, appealing to popularity and ranting on to make your post look more relatable to Bethesda haters. Your opinion isn't unpopular. A lot of people hate Fallout 4. I'm just reminding you that this is A NEW FALLOUT GAME, and we are talking about the STUDIO and the ASSETS they could use to create the next Fallout location. Not the CRPG mechanics because we haven't actually played that game yet because it hasn't even been confirmed.

Also, downvoting my posts because I'm telling you clearly have a bias towards Obsidian being the one and only Fallout game studio, doesn't scare me away from calling you out on your shit at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:52 pm

I've said it before, but a southern fallout to establish a bit of continuity in the unexplored US would be nice. The West coast is mostly taken by the NCR and the north east is pretty much BOS at this point so heading somewhere with as little development as possible. I'd love a Fallout Baja, seeing as how we have some setup there, with the NCR rangers apparently hunting bandits and trying to settle it. Not to mention including the mexican, or if set up north, canadian wasteland as a part of the Fallout universe and developing a wider worldscape would actually be pretty cool. We really know nothing about any other country post Great war aside from the US. Surely some development has been made?

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:07 am

We don't really have any clues or hints for the next location Fallout will take place in from Bethesda as of now, but I hope Fallout 5 takes place in Russia or England because I would love to see the series take place somewhere different than North America.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:15 pm

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People keep saying that they'd like for Fallout to go somewhere either than America but here's the thing: Its almost certainly not going to happen.

For one, We don't know that any of the rest of the world survived, china is almost explicitly stated to be destroyed to a point where no form of civilization thrives there in FO1, 2, and tactics (I know tactics isn't canon but this particular bit is reinforced BY canon.) Allies across the globe would have participated in nuclear warfare meaning mutually assured destruction across the globe. In fact, the reason America has any settlements whatsoever is because of the Vaults built by vault tec, which was an American company that would only build vaults in America.

Ghouls were created by the bombs in America so reason would then state that ghouls would exist everywhere, but then they're numbers are limited and really there's no telling how long they survive until going feral and there's no way a society can thrive off of ferals.

Finally, it wouldn't work story wise. The Fallout games are all slightly different but one of the constants is the theme of a defective government. At the time of the great war the American government was pushing out major propaganda that showed them off as the land of the free, where everyone was welcome and no official could make a mistake. Ironically (and that's sort of the point) America was borderline fascist. The point of Fallout is to show that being an aggressive and "pioneering" society built off of the "its us or them" mentality will only lead to the degradation of society. Nowhere on earth would be as effective at communicating this as America.

Agreed, HOWEVER, in Fallout 3 the town of Megaton existed because people were waiting outside the Vault hoping to get in, a nuke landed there but didn't explode so they survived despite radiation. Also, not everyone is from Vaults, given people in Megaton survived the bombs, others would have too. Perhaps China would be out of the question, and honestly I wouldnt want to see one there, but a snowy place could be nice. Europe, or the UK, could make for a really interesting Fallout. You could also have DLC set in different countries, instead of different states. Europe for sure, or a Northern state were the cold would be of genuine concern. Guns would also have to be more rare given the gun laws, so perhaps Bethesda could finally have a narrative excuse for the tiny variety guns available. I mean come on, like 3 assault rifle variants in all of America? Pshhhh.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:40 pm

Fallout has never really been about capturing the life outside of the US, but it would make for an interesting spin. It doesn't even have to be that far away, if its in places like Canada or South America.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:10 pm

I personally too think China should be in Fallout 5 mainly because I want a CHOPSTICK BATTLE WITH Chun Li and Jackie Chan. MAKE THIS HAPPEN BETHESDA!

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:57 pm

How about we leave the US and head somewhere else like the EU or Australia? I think games in general are getting boring location wise. I feel like I've been to every major US city hundreds of times across hundreds of games now...

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:48 pm

How about brand new world that not belong to any country. Like group of colony that have people from everywhere around the world. so you can have many language, culture and many thing from around the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:10 pm

Instead of a certain county/state. Do something different, while also giving back nostalgia moments.

Motorcycle/vehicle travelling.

There is no way that after 200 years (even more actually) the whole USA hasnt been reclaimed by humanity. So what i'm suggesting is, have for once a character that actually travels around the states.


Also, i think the best candidate for a new protagonist backstory is an Enclave Remnant or a descendant of an enclave remnant, deciding what's best for his people, to rebuild the Enclave, or let it go die and let it rest in history.
The enclave idea has so much potential and opens many karma /trait/choices (For example: What would you do with the Reformed Enclave?) ion F4, you were FORCED to be a good guy, with the minutemen.

IN F5, you could actually build an Enclave to CONQUER, restore order whatnot, (just giving possibilities, it's your choice what to do with it).

And one of the objectives of the game will be to be able to rebuild or to repair your Father/Grandad/whatever old PA back to working conditions (instead of having PA access right at the start of the game like in F4).

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:24 pm

I'd really like to see some action in the Pacific NW. A hypothetical Fallout: New Seattle has loads of potential for some really cool stuff.

For starters, the area is radically different than anything from the Core Region or the Capital/Commonwealth wasteland. Dense woods and mountains as well as dense urban areas. The area is also a real world tech hub so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to have some important pre-war tech hidden there. There's also the fact that Seattle is one of the biggest American/Asian port cities, something that can be used in relation to the Sino-American War.

My favorite possibility though is that thanks to the very distinct culture around the Seattle area, we might have the chance to see something other than 50's retro-future Americana. I can't recall the source off hand but I remember one of the OG devs saying that the 50's stuff was part of culture being cyclical and wasn't intended to be "the 50's lasted until 2077", so if you take that into consideration you open up so many cool doors. 60's/70's counter-culture, hippies and punks, or you could even creep into the 80's.
As for how to use that, maybe the NCR finally worked their way up North and now there's a major anti-government/military presence or perhaps the Brotherhood or even the Enclave are there to get their hands on secret pre-war tech by any means necessary. Or it could go the entirely opposite direction and have the Pacific NW be totally uncharted, overgrown and untamed and filled with deadly critters and the NCR or BoS could be trying to civilize it.


I've put probably too much thought into this idea, mostly due to the fact that I'm using it as a base for a Fallout d20 campaign BigGrin
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:29 pm

Pherhaps a bit cheesy, but in all honesty I'd like to see a setting in post war New York.
In addition I would absolutely love it if the next game could really play with verticality.
Most skyscrapers were nothing more but scenery in fo4.
And I think that is a mist opportunity.

I could really imagine a slum city up high in the sky nestled between several large buildings.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Tue May 09, 2017 1:08 am

New York seems like the safest bet. It's one of the most iconic states in the US and it hasn't been mined yet, that practically signs itself off. Texas is another possibility and would probably make a fantastic Fallout game, though I'm skeptical as to whether they'd use it considering Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel went there. ( I think, only one I haven't played. >_> )

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Tue May 09, 2017 8:03 am

I for one would like a southern setting- Alabama, New Orleans, Florida, etc. I feel they have so much potential, and hardly any lore covers what happened in the Southern USA.

Immense irradiated jungles, toxic plants and bugs, swamps, GATORS. So much potential.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Sat May 13, 2017 8:47 pm

Here's hoping that we go to New Orleans. Having to navigate through hellish irradiated swamps would be a nightmare. Plus being chased by mutated gators would be pretty crazy too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Sun May 14, 2017 3:21 am

I'm kind of with @Tyrant on this one. I think New Orleans would be a fascinating place to have the next Fallout game. :3 Perhaps make it similar to Point Lookout and Far Harbor, but expand on it. Image all the music they could play on the radio and all the interesting outfits you would be able to find.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Sun May 14, 2017 11:01 pm

Definitely. The atmosphere of PL was fantastic and I think it would only get better if you had a whole game dedicated to that kind environment. I'd imagine that the fauna of that environment would be rather unique and work well with a dark atmosphere too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Mon May 15, 2017 11:20 pm

Personally, I'd love to see the South East to get some love. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Texas would be interesting.

Also, I'd love to see some older Fallout locations get a revamp( not a remaster, but a new game set around already familiar locations). Honestly, I'm gonna love any locations that Fallout ends up at Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Mon May 15, 2017 11:41 pm

Switzerland would be cool, or just a place with a lot of snow and mountains, I think that would be fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Tue May 16, 2017 1:29 am

I'd love to just see more of America. It would be cool to see what happens to the Midwest brotherhood chapter. I mean, from what we know from tactics, they are the only group to accept non-human recruits. It would be interesting to see how they have deviated from Maxson's original tenets.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 5 location?   Tue May 16, 2017 3:36 pm

Fallout series tend to pick the locations that are famous. There are lot of people saying that the next serie should be in China and I don't think it is going to happen. First, there is too much effort to be put in. The bethesda literally have to create a whole new world based on a different culture. It can hardly be related to any incidents and story lines that happened in the previous games(in America). In every fallout game, the brotherhood's presence is always required. The story of the midwest BOS hasn't been told in the newest games yet so I guess it will probably be around that area in the United States? Nevertheless, as a Chinese I don't mind to travel to China on Yangzi with Captain Zao. Simply to satisfy my curiousity.Btw,His last name is actually Zhao not Zao, Zao is not a last name in China. we share the same family name. It is just even when I talk to Americans they don't pronunce the H in my name. XD
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