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PostSubject: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:55 am

So there was a T.O.T.W mod in the past but for Fallout 4, will there be a mod called 'Tale of 3 Wastelands' where the Mojave and D.C can be visited and experienced within Fallout 4?

...Is there already someone actually doing this?

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:42 am

Short answer : No

Long Answer : No, due to the engine inconsistencies, and the amount of porting modeling for the assets, and world space needed to create the game. No, the only way would be a team willing to make it possible.

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:53 am

wish it could happen but it would require a rewrite of all the assets and considering the parts removed from fallout 4 such a thing would be missing alot of needed pparts

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:22 am

It's not quite possible or well easy. Fnv and fo3 use same engine while Fo4 is on entierly diffrent one. The only way it could be done is with porting assets to creation kit which is time consuming
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:43 am

The most you could really hope for is a remake of 3 or NV inside Fallout 4's engine, that in itself would take years.

Maybe from then those mods(If somehow both ended up being made, which is unlikely in and of itself) could be integrated into a "Tale of Three Wastelands" but I really wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

Sorry, I'd really like it too, but it's probably not happening.

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:35 pm

Not that I'm being pessimistic or what, but the idea of FO3 & FNV in FO4's engine is somewhat of a dream. I'm not doubting what modders can do alright? There are a lot of talented modders out there, but even if they recreate FO3 and FNV, it would be so time consuming. Just imagine the amount of scripts they have to write, the models they have to recreate, and the world they have to make. So much time is needed and clearly that is something they do not have.
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:00 pm

To be honest, I like the looks of Fallout 3 & NV better than Fallout 4 and I keep my games separate. Even if Fallout 4 looks graphically better, it is too plastic-like.

Besides, that would be too much work to combine these 3 games together.
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:32 pm

Nope. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are on the Gamebryo engine, while FO4 uses Creation.

It'd be too much work, as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:59 pm

I don't underestimate the modders pal, (don't you ever do this) hahaha, modders can do anything, i say this because i'm with the gunners here man they o unbelivable things, one godsend modder can do this, no one knows but in my opinion i think will be great 3 wastelands i guess, but you i'll need a godbless futuristic rig to play like a 47gb game i think. So......... fingers crossed

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:21 pm

Tale of 3 wastelands? Maybe not. Individual 'remasters' in the Creation engine? Possibly, if the Skyblivion and Skywind projects are anything to go by. It'd need a massive team of dedicated modders and a long production time, just like those two projects, but in theory it is defiantly possible. The right person just needs to start it off, someone who is 100% dedicated to it and can get it started and motivate others to join the team
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:24 pm

I doubt that this will happen, it would make Fallout 4 waaaays better, but because of the engine problem and also the current state of modding in F4 it's probably gonna take some years or it won't happen at all (which is more likely). And also I rather have some new big dlc-like mods with good rpg elements in F4 over FNV/F3 which imho aren't similar at all to the artstyle and rpg-elements and the overall game of F4 (voiced protagonist, only 4 dialogue choices etc.). But I'd definitely enjoy building settlements in the other wastelands (I'd love a new/improved/F4-esque 'Wasteland Defense').

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:54 pm

I think everyone kind of dreams about the idea being possible, but at the end of the day, and this is just my taste and opinions, I like to keep Bethesda games separate. I have tried TTW in the past, and enjoyed it's novelty, but I like keeping them separate for the sole reason of different experiences.

Fallout 3 was more emotional to me, in color palette, storyline, and NPCs.
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Fallout NV was more cowboy western kick ass style to me, in all of the same above elements.

Fallout 4, well I am still trying to figure that out in my head hahah. I like to say, as others have said, that Fallout 4 was a great game, but not a great Fallout game. So it's really an amalgam of FPS and some storytelling to me, which is why it doesn't fit into a mold for me like 3 and NV.

With all that being said, as others have said, sure it might be possible in 5-10 years if enough dedicated and talented people want to remake all the assets or port them.

But for me the bottom line is even if it happened, I probably wouldn't play it. Only because as I outlined, the three games are separate entities to me and I have different playstyles, gender and race selections, and Karma for each.

Also, just to wet your whistle a little, take a look at this gem. Love it, only because it takes the fun stuff from F3 and FNV and puts into the levelled lists of F4.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3793/?

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:33 am

Interesting posts people.

I never underestimate the power of modders these days considering the jaw dropping things people are creating in certain games.

Aside from engine related things, quests etc. I guess you could easily render F3 and NV into world spaces and obviously use some similar assets from F4 to fill the voids of missing F3 and NV assets (vehicles, trees, roads etc.).

Is there a way to port F3 and NV weapons, armour etc. as you did between just F3 and NV back in the day? Or does F4 use different .nif files etc?

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:49 am

@FalloutAddiction117 wrote:

Is there a way to port F3 and NV weapons, armour etc. as you did between just F3 and NV back in the day? Or does F4 use different .nif files etc?

By my knowledge to port a weapon from FO3 to FO4 you have to remake the textures and then export the weapon as a Fallout 4 compatible nif file. . This I think will be harder than to simply port a weapon from the already existing Gamebryo engine to another game using Gamebryo. Fallout 4 uses Creation engine which is a heavily modified version of Gamebryo with all the good stuff from Gamebryo left in. This would probably take an extremely long time to remake EVERY SINGLE TEXTURE in Fallout 3 and NV.

I'm hoping for this idea to come to fruition, but it would take at least 3-5 years minimum, around the length of time Skywind is taking, and that's still being developed. Nothing beats walking around the Capital Wasteland, listening to Galaxy News Radio wearing the massive mech-sized T60 Power Armor from Fallout 4 or escaping from Raven Rock with Piper so I'm going to wish upon a star for this.

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:54 pm

Guys, I've seen this post days ago and I was not happy with the answers, because making this really is a huge work to do.
Buuuuuuut... as the world spin and the time pass by, it is with immense happiness that I came here to inform you all that somebody in Russia by the nickname of LexXx_M5 is making a FO3 World Map (Capital Wasteland) port to FO4!!! Yes, thats right!!!

It is a WIP, and the modder, LexXx_M5, says he needs help with some stuff from people who have knowledge in Autodesk 3ds Max, as most of the port is made in that program.

Please modders from GUN Community, answer his call!!!

Here is the link:

http://modgames.net/load/fallout_4/v_razrabotke/karta_fallout_3_dlja_fallout_4/441-1-0-22436


@FalloutAddiction117 Take a look in this!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:17 pm

@"ConradeBear" sorry but is not going to happen w

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:46 pm

As stated before, I highly doubt it since 3/NV are Gamebryo-based while 4 is Creation-based. It's like wanting Oblivion in Skyrim - it would be rad, but is impossible unless a team of people decide to recreate the old game in the new game. (see: Skyblivion, SkyWind)
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:47 pm

@Yuri.a.r holy shit that is so cool.

I have experience in making weapon models for New Vegas but I don't know how transferable that is to what LexXx_M5 needs... and I don't speak Russian... I would love to be involved in that project though...
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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:45 am

Guys, I have to tell you another news on FO3 porting to FO4. Seems like nafnaf95 (Project Brazil), DogtoothCG and Unoctium are also making a big port of content from FO3 to FO4. That's pretty amazing, if they finish it!!!
I'm totally hyped now... =(

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PostSubject: Re: Will there ever be a Tale of 3 Wastelands?   Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:10 am

I believe that the project that @Yuri.a.r speaks of will be the closet thing to a tale of three wastelands due to the engine restraints of fallout 4 being built on an entirely different engine that being the updated creation kit instead of the G.E.C.K.

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