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PostSubject: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:48 pm

I see a lot of Elder Scrolls remake projects where older games are remade into the Skyrim Engine.But I haven't seen many people buzzing about remaking Fallout 3 and New Vegas into the new Creation Engine used by Fallout 4. I find a fresh coat of paint would really make these old games shine. The new engine is also more stable from my experience with it than the Gamebryo engine used in 3 and New Vegas. What do you guys think? Would you support a remake of 3 and New Vegas in the Creation Engine.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:55 pm

Yes I have said this before numerous times and I fully support this idea. Gamebryo is an ancient engine and Fallout 3 and NV's gameplay was alright for it's time but Fallout 4's combat and gameplay is so much better.

The main complaint with FO4 is it's lack of RP. FNV and FO3 had MORE of that. If FNV and FO3 were to be remade in that engine, they would BE THE BEST FALLOUT GAMES EVER NO DOUBT.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:08 pm

@"Corvo" Yes it would, the games would be even better. Maybe there will be a Tale of Three Wastelands someday, the improved combat, and gameplay mixed with the superb RPG elements would improve them greatly. Sadly I don't see much being done in way of big mod projects for Fallout 4 compared to those being made for Elder Scrolls games and older Fallout games.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:13 pm

I'd love to see FO3 and FONV on FO4 engine. The better engine from 4 with the quests/stories from the other two would be the best. But even if possible we would have to wait a long time for something like that. And there's not too many people interested in FO4 in the first place.
However I would love to participate in a project like that.
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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:19 pm

@MotionlessGhost to be honest it might be a little tough making a tale of three wastelands seeing on how much fallout 4 is more a FPS then a RPG i wont even touch fallout 4 anymore to be honest but my opinions out ov the way id love to see a tale of two wastelands styled game mixing both 3 and NV together with all the steps forward fallout 4 had {i know not many closed eyes smile} it would be quite a leap forward and how fallout 4 should have been other then just being like "shoot all the things all the time!!!" haha but yes id love to see the older games remade {that also goes for 1, 2 and maybe tactics} with a injection ov 4 not what 4 was but the steps forward i know at the end ov the day it's more ov a pipe dream but no harm in dreaming right? closed eyes smile

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:39 pm

If it was done 100% to the original, it would be amazing, if Bethesda tried to alter it, they would make it shallow and boring like FO4

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:57 pm

@Lucianhector "if Bethesda tried to alter it, they would make it shallow and boring like FO4" my feelings as well they would try to make it to much a bland shooter/minecraft clone just like FO4 but that's my opinion although i enjoyed FO3 and FONV tons so my opinion might not carry much on the topic closed eyes smile .

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:30 am

@shocktrooper666 wrote:
they would try to make it to much a minecraft clone just like FO4

Although I know this is your opinion on FO4, I must say that FO4 didn't copy Minecraft. They just tried to add some of the elements that mods added to FNV and 3 to FO4. Wasteland Defense was one of the most popular mods for FNV so I guess they took inspiration from that just like they took inspiration from the companion mods like Willow and the mods that changed the lighting and removed the green and orange tint.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:55 am

I've gotta say, I keep picturing The Divide redone in a similar fashion to The Glowing Sea. It gives me warm squishy feelings.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:37 am

I would love to support in the remake of Fallout 3/New Vegas using the new engine, if I could. Fallout 4 is certainly a lot more playable and stable than 3/NV. Well, in my personal experience, I enjoyed the gameplay in 4 a lot more. I enjoyed it enough that I never touched the old games since 4 came out. There was no reason to for me. Not even nostalgia tried to take me back to the Capital Wasteland, or the Mojave.

But if the old games was ever remade using the new engine, I would definitely play it.


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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:15 am

Personally I'm not a fan of the doll-like quality of the character models, but I suppose modders can fix that like they did with gamebryo.

And of course it goes without saying that if New Vegas was remade on the Fallout 4 engine, Bethesda should be kept as far away from it as possible.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:23 pm

While it's a nice thought and it would be interesting to see, i feel as though remaking these games in the new engine would almost take away some of the charm the old engine has. While yes, the Gamebryo engine is severely outdated, it gives the Fallout games a certain look that i appreciate to a high degree. It just feels right if that makes any sense. I know it probably sounds odd but the way they look and feel has a special place in my heart that i wouldn't want to see changed.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:19 am

I'm not the biggest fan of the Fallout 4 gameplay, I'd like to see melee weapons get a bit more of a buff seeeing as how they're useless compared to guns, but it'd still be cool to see.
If TTW, Skywind or Skyblivion are anything to go by, the modding community may well see to that themselves!

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:38 am

Hey all, new to this place. I worked on Skywind for a bit, and wanted to overhaul Fallout 4 months ago. I came to the conclusion that Fallout 4 is a lost cause as an RPG and a Fallout game, so I had to drive it out of my mind. The idea of putting the past games in Fallout 4 crossed my mind, but boy does it hurt to think about, that'd be fubar from the start. Not to mention, if you were inside Skywind and Skyblivion, you wouldn't be so quick to use them as positive examples, unless you want hundreds of artists fighting over how they want to make it, years of bickering about minor things, having to remake all assets from scratch, doing it with a scratchmade group of constantly disappearing unreliable volunteers, all with the constant realization that the new engine actually limits you to such a huge extent that it may be useless doing it in the first place. Trust me, you only see the 'good bits'.

There's so many hard-coded things in the new engines that just don't allow half of the good features in the old games to be converted, and many people don't think about how crazy the legal waters are with porting. Plus, with the size of the teams as they are, the bureaucracy that develops harms more than helps the project. It's all much easier said than done, which is why I've gotten the idea out of my head and focus on modding the old games.
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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:28 am

id probally flip the fuck out because all the hard work we put in would go to waste.
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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:49 am

I had to leave because of the massive stress of it. Big teams don't work well without money. It was especially hard as a concept artist to try and push through the slog of the modelling and wars over design direction. Not to mention when your modeller has a panic attack and disappears.
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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:51 am

i would rather have a new entry from obsidian from the fallout series. after all there are many who consider the obsidian as the true successor and the Bethesda games as a second rate side story.

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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:16 am

I'd love it if they would remake Fallout 3 and NV in the new engine. It would give the games themselves a good refresh, and possibly get new people into the series.
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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:31 am

I wouldn't mind fallout 1 and 2 maybe even a cheeky tactics getting a revamp, but as far as fo3 and fnv it's a nice idea but it seems a bit of a monolithic task to tackle, however if someone managed to do it I wouldn't be complaining
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PostSubject: Re: What if 3/New Vegas Were Remade in the Fallout4 Engine?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:59 pm

I often fantasize about Fo1 and Fo2 remakes, so much so that I think I'm on to something and I've got a lot of ideas for 3d versions of those games. But using the creation engine would limit their potential, and be a pain in the ass. Something else would work better, not to mention, they couldn't be raw open world, waay too big for that, but a sort of segmented Witcher 3 style world would be cool, the originals were segmented anyway.

I made a whole map illustrating an HD Fo1 and Fo2's worldspace, if anyone would like to see. Should I post it in this thread or make a thread for it (as I did on NMA forums a while back)
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