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PostSubject: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:53 pm

"After months of discussion with Sony, we regret to say that while we have long been ready to offer mod support on PlayStation 4, Sony has informed us they will not approve user mods the way they should work: where users can do anything they want for either Fallout 4 or Skyrim Special Edition.

Like you, we are disappointed by Sony’s decision given the considerable time and effort we have put into this project, and the amount of time our fans have waited for mod support to arrive. We consider this an important initiative and we hope to find other ways user mods can be available for our PlayStation audience. However, until Sony will allow us to offer proper mod support for PS4, that content for Fallout 4 and Skyrim on PlayStation 4 will not be available.

We will provide an update if and when this situation changes."

- https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/ps4-mod-update/2016/09/09/199

Sony's at fault here, due to their policies. I feel for the PS4 owners who were hoping for this feature.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:48 pm

I saw this coming by a mile away. Bethesda and Sony never get it right, this always happened with the old titles and I was suspecting that would happen with this one.

Well, good for Microsoft in this case then.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:42 pm

It really is a damn shame that Playstation players have hit this brick wall. I was hoping that mod support would be available to all users across platforms. Ultimately it would have been a nice way to further connect the Fallout community. There is a plethora of mods currently available and Playstation users cannot even touch it. Even though Beth Net's inception was a monumental disaster it would have been an interesting way to network between players and the modding community.

As MojavePlasma said already, this was foreseeable given how spread out this announcement has been delayed.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:14 pm

I guess Sony would less likely approve the idea of modifying game, or it could be that Sony does not wish Bethesda expand their market by using the platform.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:57 pm

I'm not a console user but this is sad news sorry PS4 friends Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:06 pm

Bethesda have had some bad experiences with Playstation (cough cough Skyrim) so kind of saw this coming
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:25 am

If I remember right, the writing was on the wall when they first delayed it due to Sony's proprietary audio format or something. People give Bethesda shit all the time, and some/a lot of the time rightly so, but it seems like this is all Sony's fault. They already got their cut from the base game and DLC, and now they don't have to "risk" mods because it was Beth who put it the work. Even worse, this is one less reason to pick up Skyrim Remastered. GG Sony, now that you're so far ahead I guess you don't have to try so hard any more.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:38 am

In my opinion i think once the ps4 neo will come out it will support fallout 4 mods in my guess..
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:47 am

@hollowtips18 wrote:
In my opinion i think once the ps4 neo will come out it will support fallout 4 mods in my guess..
That would definitely give the neo another selling point however if they did that i could backfire and piss a lot ps4 owners off as they might feel as thought they've been cheated out of a feature that they where promised in order to get more money out of them.


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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:04 am

@gibons45 wrote:
@hollowtips18 wrote:
In my opinion i think once the ps4 neo will come out it will support fallout 4 mods in my guess..
That would definitely give the neo another selling point however if they did that i could backfire and piss a lot ps4 owners off as they might feel as thought they've been cheated out of a feature that they where promised in order to get more money out of then.

Exactly what I was thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:18 am

I bought ps4 month ago for fallout 4 (i cant afford pc right now). And that announcement was like kick in the balls for me. Well at least i didnt bought fallout 4 yet so it isnt that bad Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:37 pm

@VeteranAlpha wrote:
@hollowtips18 wrote:
In my opinion i think once the ps4 neo will come out it will support fallout 4 mods in my guess..

I highly doubt it, if the current PS4 doesn't support it because Sony don't agree to the terms that Bethesda are making then why would they add it in the next PS4? Bethesda clearly said that Sony have to agree to these terms for the PS4 to have basic mod support, Sony clearly denied it, if they didn't add it in this PS4 then i highly doubt it that the PS4 Neo will ever have, that is if the Neo is even real.

They revealed the Neo the other day, called the 'PlayStation 4 Pro'.

But yeah, I doubt Sony/Bethesda will come to an agreement by the time that releases, or ever will.

I kinda saw this coming too, considering how they kept having problems with getting mods added.

Makes me glad I bought FO4 on PC.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:43 pm

Feel really sorry for PS4 players, they have been waiting so long for mods to come to PS and it looks like it will never happen. Shame really.

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:39 pm

I bought fallout 4 on ps4 first,but i had a feeling something like this would happen given the history of bethesda games on sony platforms.so. said the heck with it and bought a gaming pc.granted i didnt buy it for fallout specificaly.but now that i have i love it the mods on pc are amazing and i can finally play new vegas fullyy modded and not worry zbout it crashing every 5 minutes.still though i feel sorry for all the ps4 gamers who waited paitently for mods.
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:53 pm

Sony wont add mod support for the new PS4 console. This is the problem


Sony: We will let you have mods if you review and approve the mods before theyre released. We are extremely petrified of users having access to put code into their consoles
Bethesda: Well we dont really review the mods and we want mod support
Sony: Well if you dont review and approve the mods no mod support for you
Bethesda: Sorry kids, Sony Said no


That's it in a nutshell, it doesn't have anything to do with audio formats or anything else. Sony doesn't want un-reviewed, unapproved code on their consoles. If Bethesda wanted mods that bad they would put a review and approval process in place and appease Sony. But as we have seen much like the wholesale theft of mods from the Nexus to Bethesda.net, Bethesda doesn't want to commit the resources to something they will never profit from.

Think I am wrong? Ps4 players can download mods for Farming Simulator... why? Because the developers who created Farming Simulator have a review and approval process in place. No issues with audio formats there.... funny
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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:03 pm

This is such an interesting situation...and I'm sure it's due in part to my ignorance but...what is the absolute worst case scenario for having "unapproved code" running on a console? I know Sony has always had a very high opinion of their hardware...but isn't a playstation a toy?

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PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 PS4 Mod Update   Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:17 pm

@OSOK wrote:
This is such an interesting situation...and I'm sure it's due in part to my ignorance but...what is the absolute worst case scenario for having "unapproved code" running on a console? I know Sony has always had a very high opinion of their hardware...but isn't a playstation a toy?


They are afraid that someone will figure out a way to disable DRM or add a new MODCHIP to their consoles. A way people could play iso disks downloaded from the internet. That has always been a fight for Sony. If there is a mechanism like a review and approval process for mods, they relax a bit.

But who sits and reviews user submitted mods? If they sit there for Sony, then Sony has to pay them, if they sit there for Bethesda, they have to pay. And at the end of the day, a salary or several salaries have to be paid with no Return On Investment.
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