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PostSubject: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:13 pm

Hey everyone,

Since I've been a member of this community, I've read a lot about the other fallout games. I've read how superior FNV is over FO4, I've read how FO3 was a turning point in the franchise. Add to that the number of great looking mods here that I want to use...only to see it's for FNV. I have no insight into the other games as I haven't played them, but I am curious if I as one who started with FO4, could enjoy the GAMEPLAY (the story I'm certain I will enjoy) if I'm very much accustom to how FO4 is? The game itself will I enjoy playing through it? Or could I glean some backstory from a few youtube videos? I'm really asking for input and opinions from those that have played all, some, most, or other FO games to say "yeah it's totally worth it to go and play the others" or "meh just play _____ as it's the best of the previous don't bother with ____ or ____ because they're just rehashes of ____"

Thank you all for any insight/light you can shed on this matter, I very much enjoy FO4...but am curious if FNV or others I would enjoy even more from a gameplay aspect...as I believe that these games are the modern day books...they tell a story...speaking of...where in the hell is the fallout movie?
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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:19 pm

Play them in order. F1 - F2 - F3 - FNV
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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:47 pm

lets start from 3 ,
F3:
 


FNV
NV:
 

as for things that persist in both 3 and NV that don't in 4
Shared :
 

thats all I can remember any questions ?


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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:06 pm

I have an "ammo system" in FO4 which I've had since the start...it just occurred to me that it's actually a mod and since i've never played FO4 vanilla, I now see how the idea for this mod to exist happened.

It seems as though I will be playing this saga "star wars" style...as in, I've started in the middle and I'll need to work backward. I'm certainly on board with doing FNV...more FO3 research is needed to see if it's worth installing/modding/playing through or not. I was on the fence with FNV...but the scales have tipped in its favor.

thank you for your insight!

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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:05 pm

Fallout New Vegas definitely is the best 3D Fallout game all-around, if you like true open-world RPGs with extensive character dialogue.

The dialogue and quests are much better than in 4, partly due to the superior dialogue system, but also because there are multiple ways to complete the quests, and it can change the fate of entire settlements for the rest of the game. One example of these quests is right in the beginning, the quest "Ghost Town Gunfight".

The actual gameplay is not much different from 4, except that VATS stops time completely instead of slowing it down, so you can basically stop time and plan out your moves similar to the scenes in the new Sherlock Holmes movies.

The perk system is also much better, but it's more RPG-like. You can put your points into expertise of specific weapons, speech, sneaking etc. and you can unlock perks that have to do with those skills, and make you more powerful in that field.

There are 4 DLC's for this game, and you should get all of them. Each one has a new worldspace and storyline, and you can get them for very cheap along with the Ultimate Edition.

And if that's not enough, this game has so many mods that if you feel anything is missing, it's probably been made in the past 5 years. I've been playing this game with mods for quite some time, so if you're looking for any kind of mod, you can ask me. There's a good chance I've downloaded such a mod some time in the past.

This is beginning to sound like a fanboy rant, but yeah, I have only good things to say about this game. If you run into any memory, unstability or bug issues, there are fixes for those too.

The first thing you should get is NVSE, New Vegas Script Extender. Most mods that involve scripting require it. You should also get the 4GB Enabler and New Vegas Anti-Crash.

I also personally watch mod review channels, because that way you can get a look at the mods before downloading or installing, and they often highlight good mods.

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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:54 pm

I agree with the others, New Vegas is an absolute must-have. Fallout 3 lacks a load of features that New Vegas has, but I think that the game world is fantastic, on par or maybe slightly better than NV. I would recommend Tale of Two Wastelands which merges Fallout 3 into NV,but you'll probably want to get them on sale.
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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:49 pm

Try tale of two wastelands Very Happy , you can play both in the same game and have all of there benefits and no drawbacks from fallout 3's old engine.

Hope you have a wonderful journey and don't let the majority's opinion overrule your own.

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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:22 pm

Hmm

So "tale of two wastelands" allows for the combined story line of FO3 and FNV? I need both games yes or no?

It's fascinating, really, all of this.

So I need to get the "ultimate edition" of FNV with all of the DLC...and FO3...well Full "steam" ahead

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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:51 am

Yeah that's correct, the Ultimate Edition of New Vegas and the GOTY Edition of Fallout 3. You get all the good stuff without any drawbacks, like lukaboot said. Have fun!
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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:17 am

Play them all, or if you wanna cheat, and don't want to go all the way back to the older isometric games, watch really in-depth let's plays/walkthroughs to get what it's all about, and then start with Fallout 3, then New Vegas.
I recommend Tale of Two Wastelands, but I'm not sure if I can recommend it your first time through.
I'd say beat them both individually, then use TTW, but it's your world.
There's no wrong way to play.

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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:37 pm

Update:

As of this moment I have installed FNV Ultimate Edition...I started the game.

I loved the intro...really drew me in
Started the orientation play with Doc...meh...aside from not understanding what i was choosing...the customization of the figure seemed pointless because...it's a first person only right? and the SPECIAL choosing made no sense to me at all.
Not sure about the "psych eval" either...but whatever I rolled with it
Doc walks me to the door...gives me his old dirty underwear (vault suit) with some half-ass explanation as to why I should wear it (not even my size...I picture him trying to put a onesie on)

I walk outside and there is a securitron rolling by that I shoot...he shot me back...and I died on the front porch of Doc's house.

As of now my install time outweighs my play time for this game...I don't know if I can push through it or not...I know everyone here and on the planet that has played this game swears it's superior to FO4...but for me...I started with FO4.

This exercise has helped me resolve the issue of how far back I should go...I can't, i don't believe the time invested will result in a sufficient amount of satisfaction...instead I have decided to go forward, afterall the next step from player is to...creator.

This community has some amazing artists and a plethora of content for the player: weapons armor textures sounds enbs(not sure what those are but you've got em)

I see a little content for the environment...and that's where I want to start, I believe in FO4 they are called "cells"
I have come across so many places I'm not happy with or seem "under developed" (Boston Airport; Nuka World) and while what I do may or may not improve it...it'll be different. So I'm putting on my swimmies and jumping into the creation kit for FO4.

As for brushing up on the backstory and lore of fallout; I'm taking the advice of @andresgrimm and watching videos of playthrough and summaries so when people release mods for something I can know whether or not it's for FO4 or not (saw an awesome player home here...read through it, and had no idea it wasn't for FO4 until I saw the screenshots and said "never seen that place before...gotta be for FNV...and it was)

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PostSubject: Re: How Far Back Should I Go? or Should I at all?   Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:02 am

@OSOK wrote:
Update:

As of this moment I have installed FNV Ultimate Edition...I started the game.

I loved the intro...really drew me in
Started the orientation play with Doc...meh...aside from not understanding what i was choosing...the customization of the figure seemed pointless because...it's a first person only right? and the SPECIAL choosing made no sense to me at all.
Not sure about the "psych eval" either...but whatever I rolled with it
Doc walks me to the door...gives me his old dirty underwear (vault suit) with some half-ass explanation as to why I should wear it (not even my size...I picture him trying to put a onesie on)

I walk outside and there is a securitron rolling by that I shoot...he shot me back...and I died on the front porch of Doc's house.

As of now my install time outweighs my play time for this game...I don't know if I can push through it or not...I know everyone here and on the planet that has played this game swears it's superior to FO4...but for me...I started with FO4.

This exercise has helped me resolve the issue of how far back I should go...I can't, i don't believe the time invested will result in a sufficient amount of satisfaction...instead I have decided to go forward, afterall the next step from player is to...creator.

This community has some amazing artists and a plethora of content for the player: weapons armor textures sounds enbs(not sure what those are but you've got em)

I see a little content for the environment...and that's where I want to start, I believe in FO4 they are called "cells"
I have come across so many places I'm not happy with or seem "under developed" (Boston Airport; Nuka World) and while what I do may or may not improve it...it'll be different. So I'm putting on my swimmies and jumping into the creation kit for FO4.

As for brushing up on the backstory and lore of fallout; I'm taking the advice of @andresgrimm and watching videos of playthrough and summaries so when people release mods for something I can know whether or not it's for FO4 or not (saw an awesome player home here...read through it, and had no idea it wasn't for FO4 until I saw the screenshots and said "never seen that place before...gotta be for FNV...and it was)

You'll find it harder to play FNV than fo4 because it is more of an RPG than fo4 and is a lot more slower paced. Your choices and decisions also decide the outcome at the end of the game.
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