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 Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:23 pm

Absolutely, I would trust them. no game these days is perfect. There's alway performance/bug issues, and there will always be love/hate groups for the game, that feel it should've done this vs. that, gone a dif direction, etc. as much as I would love to see Obsidian do another one, New Vegas, felt kind of empty to me, but they're the only other compan I could see doing it. Companys like Bioware and Ubisoft are too busy sucking on EA's d*** to put anything of true quality out. The DA series has gone way down hill, along with Assasins Creed, and too be honest, from what I've seen, they have more performance issues and bugs than any of Bethesda's games.

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:13 pm

If they don't put Emil Pagliarulo in charge of writing yes. I just can't stand the story and writing in fallout 4. The story is recycled and the writing is bland. You can't roleplay or be anyone other than refrigerator dad/mom. In new vegas you could choose whether you knew what fish were, if you'd been to utah before, and a ton of other choices to shape your backstory. Even if some like the fish and utah didn't matter or were really minor, you still had bigger options as well. My biggest gripe with fallout 4 is that there is no replayability or roleplaying in it. It is one of my least favorite games to play. Now, all things considered it is still a good game and I see how people enjoy it. I've discussed my experience with other people on places like reddit and they all come back to the "how many hours do you have in it?" To which I reply with "around 100" they then consider my opinion moot because of that. But then you need to think, how many of those hours did I enjoy? Because if I seem to recall correctly in order to really level, you need to do those shitty minute men quests, to get good weapon traders, you need to mess with minecraft, to do any sort of substantial damage, you need to level up and waste a perk on whatever weapon type you use so you can do more than 20% of damage. Now when I voice all my problems like I have above, many people reply with "how about YOU make it better". In truth I can't fix all my problems with the game while keeping the main story aspects. But I can try and improve them in FROST, which is fallout 4's version of DUST, Im writing for it and holy hell will there be quests. And none of them care about you, meaning you won't have to decide if you've heard of fish before.

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:41 pm

I would rather go confess my not so saint hood fantasies to my married teacher and try to seduce her , rather than letting Todd Howard making ay nother fallout title ,guy is gonna put racing in fallout at this rate

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:54 pm

I honestly would like to see another company take the reigns again. Not Bethesda or Obsidian. If the people are still there and together I would like Micro Forte and Gareth Davies take another shot at the Fallout universe. For those that don't know, Micro Forte is the dev that made Fallout Tactics. They had a sequel in the making that seemed to have an incredible concept.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Tactics_2

If not Micro Forte, what other companies have made successful post apocalyptic games that can do Fallout justice? I think we need some new concepts and a fresh take on the series that only a outside dev that has not done Fallout before can do.

I have heard equal complaints about both companies and it's time for somebody else to step in.

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:34 am

I haven't played FO4 yet, but I have read plenty about this and recently started a thread about the current state of things of FO4.

I am optimistic, yes the RPG elements have been dumped down but its still mod friendly ya? DLCs aren't even all out yet!

Before everyone gets on the 'abandon all ye hope' ship, think DAO and what happened with DA2.

This could've been a lot worse, and to be fair I don't know of any other company with the same resources that actually would take the time to do a 'better' job.

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:52 am

I bought the pre-order. I havne't been very satisfied with it. Well at least on par with the Fallout 3 and Fallout NV (the last one bought the first or second day of release) My biggest complaint before was the bugs they had to still fix. With Fallout 4 I played through one time and didn't touch it for months, well until the last DLC was released.

For the next game... I will wait until at least it has been released and I can see the footage and see what the game is about. Then make my decision. Worst thing I wait like I did for Skyrim for a year or so after it's release and then buy it for 50% off (with the DLCs included if possible) By that time most mods will be created and I will have a better results if I find I don't like aspects of the game.

Buying it pre-order is very slim chance indeed.

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:20 am

Bethesda has my absolute trust. Sure there are bugs and performance issues but Bethesda patches those...usually. Their lore mistakes do make me mad though...
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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:15 pm

@ritualclarity ditto, I waited till Skyrim went legendary before I revisited Tamriel cause the lore was just not as engaging as a post apocalyptic world.

Having said that however is there an alternative? No other company that I know of has made another game that has garnished such vast interest and have created entire modding  communities such as this.

Who else could we turn to? There is no other series that I know of that has granted us the same freedom to play and mod the game as we like.

EA totally screwed over everyone with DA2 and I bought DA3 but I haven't even brought myself to finish it because it was just not as engaging. The characters were bland, the mods were mostly just texture replacers.

Sadly there is no other gaming series that t know of which provides and is interesting enough to entice an entire community of modders.

The only game I played that was even close to Bethesda games was maybe State of Decay though that also was repetitive and did not have the same replay value as Bethesda games.

Hell I have been playing the same damn game for the last decade, Skyrim and FNV. Name one other game from the last decade that garnished the same interest and grants you complete access by providing creation kits?
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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:38 pm

Seeing as how a while back I made a thread that was basically about how much I hate Fallout 4, no, I will not. I'm afraid for the future of the Elder Scrolls games as well. I prefer the Elder Scrolls and if they run it into the ground like (I feel) they did with FO4, it'll make me even saltier than FO4 ever will. (Yes, I'm ripping FO4 without explanations for my opinion, but I really don't feel like ranting again right now.)

I know I'm definitely not bothering with the next one if it has voice acting for the player. I like having more dialogue options than "Yes", "Yes but pay me", "Cringy snark", and "No, but I really mean yes/Question". I want my RPG elements back too.
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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:15 am

i would be skeptical but i'm sure they learned what the fans want and don't want from fallout 4 so that being said i might trust them. but it would be interesting if they gave obsidian another go at the fallout franchise

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:21 am

I don't think I would really "trust" anyone. I'm going to be very skeptical about the next Fallout Bethesda makes. To be honest though, I wonder if other developers would make a good Fallout. They could make a good game, sure, but a good Fallout?

As for Obsidian, I think they did a good job with New Vegas. It was by no means the paragon of Fallout RPGness some people think it was, but it was a good Fallout. I liked the design style and setting in Fallout 3 better than New Vegas. Obsidian picked a shitty place for a Fallout, for the most part.

The story for New Vegas was boring to me. Every time, it's hunt down Benny. I think that's been a bit of a trend in newer Fallout, actually. In FO3, it was find Dad to advance the story. In NV, it's find Benny. FO4 is find Kellogg. It gets boring. Then there's the conflict part. I could really care less about the dam, Caesar's Legion is just dumb, and I hate House and his Securitrons. NCR was the only faction I could almost get into. A lot of this is my opinion, obviously. Once you kill Benny, the factions are harassing you to work with them. Can't speak for legion, as I never played with them, but at least for NCR it was a lot of dialogue and skill checks. Not too much combat. The only part in the main story itself that I can remember combat being important was the actual battle of Hoover Dam.

Really, that's just my opinion. I'll just see where things go from here, I guess. I really hope they get better. It would be cool if Obsidian made another Fallout, but I'm not gonna be all, "Oh, that would be the best thing ever." Hopefully, the next Fallout will actually be a worthy addition to the series.
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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:11 am

I'll be wary, I enjoyed Fallout 4 but it's definitely not the Fallout game people wanted. It felt more like a spinoff. Very locked down, linear story with no options to play your own character rather than the one Bethesda chose for you. Boring factions and every single little thing was focused on Settlement building. Even down to the DLC. I'm sure I can speak for most of you when I say I'd rather a relatively small story DLC to a huge workshop DLC.

Between Fallout 3 and Fallout 4, Bethesda have shown they really don't "get" Fallout. While they're able to piece together a fairly decent replica, they have yet to get it right. Considering the absolute focus on Settlement building that Fallout 4 has, I am considerably worried for the future of the series. I don't want it to become a nonsensical sims clone. Other people might, I personally don't.

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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:15 am

No. I think Bethesda is only good as a publisher.
I was already skeptical of Fallout 4 when it was announced last year. I was right to be skeptical, Fallout 4 was super disappointing in my opinion.
For now, I think I'm going to stop buying Bethesda games and start supporting Obsidian's current projects.
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PostSubject: Re: Will you trust Bethesda with another Fallout game?   Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:24 pm

Fallout 4 wasn't that great, but I really enjoyed the DLC's and I think they know now what they've done wrong (like Todd said). So yeah, I'm gonna buy the next Fallout/Elder Scrolls Game.

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