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 [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?

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What type of overhaul would you like to see for the NCR?
Traditional, WW2 themed
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 39% [ 71 ]
Tactical-Modern, Battlefield 3 style-themed
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 18% [ 33 ]
Apocalyptic-Modern, Special Ops: The Line style-themed
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 43% [ 77 ]
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:21 pm

right on so diversity among the soldiers
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:45 pm

Well I'm in favour of a modern tactical look but regardless of which one you do I'm sure it will be good in quality.

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:09 pm

Amazing drag, as always, but I will prefer to see the 3rd option, because I think that it simplifies the NCR in a really good way, because the NCR got the right idea, stay heavily equipped in the harsh wasteland but move quick and stay fast on your feet, I think that would be amazing. Machine Gunner

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:43 pm

I preffer the WWII style since i think that would be lore-friendly, since Fallout is based off the Cold War era, and has relations/connections to WWII, if they made a faction based off the Roman Empire, why not WWII themes? i thnk WWII themes would fit, since they are friendly to the lore, and would fit in just nice. plus makes the NCR looks nicer, and American. since some NCR's stuff is BASED off WWII, so i think WWII themes would fit the NCR more.
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:43 pm

I would prefer the WW2 since it does fit the 1950s retro theme of Fallout + 1950s was very close to the 1940s. But I do like the other armors that are there. Heck maybe have three seperate downloads for those who want WW2, BF3 or Spec Ops: The Line.

But in terms of the other armors, I don't think they'll really match due to the type of weapons that are standard issue to the NCR. I mean I would not like the Service Rifle and a BF3/SOTL uniform as they would not mix well in terms of looks of a Modern Soldier. I mean Weapons of New Millenia/RSA Tactical Weapons would be good for the BF3/SOTL uniform whereas Vanilla Weapons can stay with the WW2.
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:59 pm

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This proposition might sound strange, but maybe it would be somewhat better to implement some World War I uniforms as well?You see, the uniform of British Expeditionary Forces might actually fit for NCR.There is also a game that has a plenty of assets that could potentially be ripped:I am talking about video game called Verdun 1916.Of course, this is not a demand, it is just a proposition, but, just as I mentioned, it might be good to have those uniforms as well.I will provide some images so that you could better understand my idea.
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I hope its not too unhelpful to recommend a design that wasnt put in the poll, but I definietly think stahlmann has the right idea, I imagine the NCR as still developing its manufacuturing and fabrication capabilities, and while they could produce a limited supply of advanced armors, I think it makes sense for the mass produced uniform to demonstrate a nation that is still young and undeveloped in a brutal atmosphere.

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:43 am

I like Option 3 because it looks the most rugged and lore friendly.

If either Option 1 or 2 were to be made...

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:54 am

I like 2 & 3 but I just feel ww2 is more appropriate for the NCR since the Fallout universe takes a much greater inspiration from a time period that is more closer to ww2 than modern times.
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:16 am

WW2 seems more lore friendly than BF3 and SOTL. besides, the NCR's vanilla armor doesn't look to dissimilar from that of the World War One American Infantryman. WW2 wouldn't be that far from the NCR's tech level.
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:20 am

WW2 would be nice but really it should be Vietnam, In theory it's very similar clothing, practically the same however the americans Vietnam war attire suits warmer climates and in my opinion would look better in a desert compared to the heavy and long-shirted fatigues of ww2 infantry

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really you need something that looks rugged yet comfortable, you can't have most soldiers looking pristine or completely organised  just the higher ranks, you need them to wear the same or similar colour pallet and that's it, that way you give off the impression that this army is stretched thin and it can't supply all it's forces. (as someone mentions at the 188 trading post)

on the other hand that spec ops the line does look inticing, as long as there's a standalone version I will be right as rain
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:17 pm

Great idea for the poll!

I think NCR gear should have more modern tactical look and some kind of tidiness like the organized army should have. Battlefield.

And the Legion in that case should look more like post apocalyptic tactical formation - SOTL.

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:52 pm

Of the 3, I choose option 3 as I thought that would be more lore-friendly. The Apoc-Theme seems to suit the NCR best as they were formed after the war.
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:35 pm

Spec ops the line for me, it is one of my favorite armors you have done and i think it just fits Fallout so well, i think it would look great on the NCR.

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:33 pm

danbrother wrote:
Great idea for the poll!

I think NCR gear should have more modern tactical look and some kind of tidiness like the organized army should have. Battlefield.

And the Legion in that case should look more like post apocalyptic tactical formation - SOTL.

Thing is he already did legion
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:02 pm

WW2, absolutely. It wouldn't make sense otherwise (assuming this is meant to be lore-friendly). When the bombs dropped the US military had a style going which mostly resembled the gear used in the interim between the Korean War and the outbreak of Vietnam.
There is no large-scale production of gear outside the NCR's own factories which could inspire them, so what would they get their inspiration from? Pre-war military outfits of course, that would be the most advanced thing known to them so that would be the obvious place to start. Basing their outfits around what worked in the past and making small improvements.

They wouldn't jump over 70 years worth of design and straight to modern warfare tactical camo, especially not considering how stretched thin the NCR is at the point of NV. They make due with the most sensible and cheaply produced uniforms they can produce, and their helmets being stamped metal brodie replicas was a nice touch as well. So definitely WW2, not too modern. It's not the Brotherhood of Steel after all.

Honestly, if it was an option I'd vote WW1 and suggest checking out the uniforms from the multiplayer game Verdun. The troops in the Mojave were mostly WW1 inspired, so if it was possible to implement some of the things like gaiters and greatcoats, that would be keeping in line with the aesthetics of the faction a lot more.
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:00 am

I dig all your work Dragbody, needless to say, I'm gonna have to go for the WWII theme, because the vanilla feel of the NCR Army is very much inspired by WWII and seeing a some uniforms inspired by the WWII and Korean era WWII uniforms just aids to it a little more. The modern theme, while I really dig it and love the tactical look of it, I feel it's been overdone and driven in the ground, plus you've done a ton of modern tactical BF style mods. Same with the apocalyptic spec ops the line

Though frankly, one thing I'd love to see is a Vietnam style since it seems there's a hint of Vietnam in the NCR Army at times. Maybe in some future work you might consider adding a flavor of 'Nam to another NCR overhaul mod.

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:17 am

@mixtape69 @Waffenbaum Well said, just take a look at this NCR propaganda poster that is essentially the same as one the United States actually used in World War 2
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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:26 am

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@mixtape69 @Waffenbaum Well said, just take a look at this NCR propaganda poster that is essentially the same as one the United States actually used in World War 2
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Yup, I've always digged the WWII themed propaganda posters set up all over the Mojave, adds some charm to the wasteland and is just another way the NCR is trying to remind citizens they're exactly like the pre-war US Government.

I'd love to see the WWII theme more too because it feels far more lore friendly and closer to the original character design the devs setup.

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PostSubject: Re: [POLL] NCR Overhaul - What do you want to see?   Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:46 am

I was going to explain in detail the similarities between the average WW1 uniform and the NCR ones but then I thought, why not just show it. That's more fun Smile
So here's a hastily made picture. I do love the aesthetics and I think it was a great design choice by Obsidian, and it would be a shame to deviate too far from them.

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